The OceanGate Titan Submarine Scandal

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I started the OceanGate submarine disaster discussion in the chit chat thead below. However, now we know the awful outcome of this disaster, I think it's worth starting it's own thread about it.

In this video, an engineer explains the various failings and shortcuts taken in the Titan's design and maintenance and especially the lack of certification and how the company dodged it through loopholes. Tellingly, the company also fired a staff member who pointed out serious problems with the submarine some time before and sued him. They then reached an undisclosed settlement with him. If this isn't enough to reek of scandal, I dunno what is. No wonder some people were wary enough to not go on it and consequently survived.

Also, this sub had made around 6 dives before it imploded. This is either a lot or a little, depending on the precise situation, includng depth, which is crucial. In this situation, it's quite a lot, especially as it doesn't appear to have been properly tested and maintained.

Also, the website has been down since 22.06.2023, not surprising really. I expect the site to stay down permanently and the company to go bust after this incident.

Personally, I'd never go down in any submarine ever, for any reason, as they're deathtraps. With cars, trains or planes, there's a good chance you'll survive an accident, quite possibly uninjured. With a sub, it will implode in milliseconds and everybody's dead, no chance of survival. No thanks.

I bet this story will run and run as the scandal unfolds.

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Ross Kemp and others were the clever ones who stayed away from this deathtrap:

Official website which no longer works:
 

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It does appear to be a tragedy that could have easily been avoided by listening to safety concerns. I feel more perplexed by this due to the sheer amount of money involved and don't quite understand why it couldn't have been built correctly if the plan was to charge billionaires. This really sounds like a "rednecks build sub and implode" story, but is dealing with people who as far as I can tell could have just bought a sub already able to achieve those depths for the tours.
 

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Agreed.

The whole thing was a jury-rigged pile of garbage that just a small amount of research into by any prospective customer revealed, especially rich ones with resources.

I guess it's poetic justice that the overconfident CEO, Stockton Rush, who trumpeted this thing as safe is one of the victims, otherwise it would have been 5 innocent people that died, not 4.
 

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yikes if truthful
 

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I truly feel we weren't meant to go see that sunken ship.

The owner was of questionable integrity and he along with the others spending 250000 a piece paid with their lives.
 

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This video does a good analysis of the shoddy standards used to build and only sorta test the sub and the likely last moments: the passengers knew something was seriously wrong. Just how terrifying was that?

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I'm still not over the game controller being used to navigate the sub.....jeez!
 

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I'm still not over the game controller being used to navigate the sub.....jeez!
The US Navy use XBox Controllers, sometimes off the shelf is better than spending $100 thousands on a custom unit.

This video does a good analysis of the shoddy standards used to build and only sorta test the sub and the likely last moments: the passengers knew something was seriously wrong. Just how terrifying was that?

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Follow the money, bet bribes were made
 
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The US Navy use XBox Controllers, sometimes off the shelf is better than spending $100 thousands on a custom unit.


Follow the money, bet bribes were made

For real? I had no idea. 😱

I never new how prevalent "follow the money" would become as a common theme in my life when looking at news as decades pass and finding the truths.
 
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