Doctor says doctors terrified to step out of line

[Geffers]

Excellent presentation by Dr Suneel Dhand as to why doctors generally all think the same, why they are, in his words, terrified to step out of line.

He trained in UK but currently works in US and is an opponent of 'pills for everything'.

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Geffers

 

[Retro]

So, rot and corruption are at the root of the medical profession, who knew? It helps explain why they behave as they do sometimes during appointments, especially with advice, or in what treatments they recommend.

What I don't get, is that people wanting to become doctors know about the huge debt that they'll be getting into, so why do they do it? This should be a death knell for this profession. Would be nice to know more details about this situation. Is the loan deferred in some way perhaps? I have no idea.

 

[Tiffany]

Medical doctors are all in that box, and if you challenge them to think out of that box, they will twitch.

On why doctors tow that line is probably because they do have that student loan to pay for and why would they want to lose their license for a patient that challenges their authority (oh, they really hate that) or a patient that asks for alternatives (that's always an immediate eye roll). Doctors are glorified pharmacists, in my opinion, except for the emergency room physicians/surgeons and those doctors that put people back together after a major accident, whom I'm grateful that they can put people back together as their talent takes amazing skill.

 

[Geffers]

Never ceases to amaze me the amount of pharma ads on US TV. I've seen a break where every advert is for a treatment of some kind. Even if you are well they want to sell you a pill to keep you well.

 

[Tiffany]

It's ridiculous the ads on TV.

Warning Rant coming:

It's also getting frustrating in the US on how you are now required to go to a specialist for every med you are on. I just went through that today at a doctor's appointment. If you're an ENT, you can only prescribe ENT related meds. If you're a Pulmonary doctor, same. I miss the days I could go to one doctor for everything I needed. Now I have to go to my general doctor or a specialist for a simple nasal spray. Good grief and copay's are also really extreme. Not to mention how time consuming all of these appointments can be and don't think you can come back next year as they want to see you every 4 to 6 months, or they won't refill your prescription. The US Big Pharma comprises about 30% plus of our GDP. Ya think American's have issues? Too many meds and very few doctors are offering solutions. Those doctors that do offer solutions (naturapaths, osteopaths, functional medicine) are usually not on insurance and are extremely expensive and even then, no assurance that all the money you spent helped resolve a malady.

End rant~

 

[Retro]

Tiffs, I wonder if it's gone like this because of advancements in medical knowledge, ie mankind now knows a lot more than in those days? Could it be a way of making more money? Avoiding liability?

I don't know, but I suspect that medical advancements might have something to do with it.

I believe it's similar in the UK. tbh, I don't really remember my doctor visits in the 80s and 90s, but they do refer one to specialists for a lot of things now.

We don't get the same medical ads that you do though as I think they're much more tightly regulated over here.

 

[live627]

Combination of liability and money.Mostly money.

New Zealand is the only other country to show pharma ads on tv afaik.