Lucy Letby: psychopath baby serial killer expected to get whole life order

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This means that she's never getting out of jail: there's no hope of parole so she'll die in there. Her life will be no picnic, either. Justice has been done.

I wasn't gonna sully my forum with this horrible woman, but this sentence is really significant and also satisfying. Too many murderers get so-called "life" sentences meaning that they're out after around 16 years with good behaviour, which is flat out wrong.

Murdering someone in cold blood should always carry a whole life order in my opinion as their victim has been permanently denied life and the permanent - whole life - suffering inflicted on the remaining family members, some of which may go on to commit suicide over it, hence have been murdered indirectly. I just hope that the families get some closure over their losses and a reduction in mental pain with this sentence.

I think they should add sterilisation to her sentence, ie spay the bitch, like is done with animals. Can you imagine her ever having a baby, how she would treat it and how mortified it would be to know they've got a mother like that. Worse still, what happens if her baby turns out to have psychopathic tendencies like her? It's quite possible, so let's eliminate the chance.

In the article below, there's pictures of Letby and several other psycho serial killers. When looked at together like that, it's striking how the coldness, the total lack of empathy is quite apparent in their eyes and the set of their faces. Now, most psychos are unfortunately not in prison as they haven't killed anyone, or haven't been caught and tend to rise to prominent positions in companies, but it's worth looking out for these telltale signs in people you meet, especially if they seem to be gaslighting you, or otherwise hurting or using you when you know you've done nothing wrong to them, so that you can protect yourself.

Letby will be sentenced at Manchester Crown Court on 21st August. I'll be updating this thread with that sentence.

Please don't post any pictures of serial killers on NerdZone as I really don't like looking at them.

“While an ordinary life sentence comes with a minimum term the prisoner must serve before they can be considered for release, a whole life order is different,” he said. “It means that they will never be released or considered for release, by order of the court.

What prison life will look like for Lucy Letby with no hope of parole

Five years have passed since Lucy Letby was first arrested at her home in Chester. Police banged on the door at 6am on a July morning in 2018, leading the killer nurse away in handcuffs as her father looked on.

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UPDATE 21.08.23

Yeah, this nasty piece of work got that whole life order, as expected. Justice has been done for once. She's gonna rot in jail until she dies and stew over getting caught, ruining her life and is so richly deserved. Her pain and regret will be as nothing compared to that of her victims though.

Letby was given multiple whole-life terms - one for each offence - becoming only the fourth woman in UK history to receive such a sentence.

Whole-life orders are the most severe punishment available and are reserved for those who commit the most heinous crimes.
Mr Justice Goss said the "cruelty and calculation" of Letby's actions between June 2015 and June 2016 were "truly horrific".

"You acted in a way that was completely contrary to the normal human instincts of nurturing and caring for babies and in gross breach of the trust that all citizens place in those who work in the medical and caring professions," he said.

'Cruel, calculated' Lucy Letby to spend rest of life in prison

Giving the nurse a whole-life sentence, the judge says there was "a malevolence bordering on sadism".

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[Mars]

This means that she's never getting out of jail: there's no hope of parole so she'll die in there. Her life will be no picnic, either. Justice has been done.

I wasn't gonna sully my forum with this horrible woman, but this sentence is really significant and also satisfying. Too many murderers get so-called "life" sentences meaning that they're out after around 16 years with good behaviour, which is flat out wrong.

Murdering someone in cold blood should always carry a whole life order in my opinion as their victim has been permanently denied life and the permanent - whole life - suffering inflicted on the remaining family members, some of which may go on to commit suicide over it, hence have been murdered indirectly. I just hope that the families get some closure over their losses and a reduction in mental pain with this sentence.

I think they should add sterilisation to her sentence, ie spay the bitch, like is done with animals. Can you imagine her ever having a baby, how she would treat it and how mortified it would be to know they've got a mother like that. Worse still, what happens if her baby turns out to have psychopathic tendencies like her? It's quite possible, so let's eliminate the chance.

In the article below, there's pictures of Letby and several other psycho serial killers. When looked at together like that, it's striking how the coldness, the total lack of empathy is quite apparent in their eyes and the set of their faces. Now, most psychos are unfortunately not in prison as they haven't killed anyone, or haven't been caught and tend to rise to prominent positions in companies, but it's worth looking out for these telltale signs in people you meet, especially if they seem to be gaslighting you, or otherwise hurting or using you when you know you've done nothing wrong to them, so that you can protect yourself.

Please don't post any pictures of serial killers on NerdZone as I really don't like looking at them.

What prison life will look like for Lucy Letby with no hope of parole

Five years have passed since Lucy Letby was first arrested at her home in Chester. Police banged on the door at 6am on a July morning in 2018, leading the killer nurse away in handcuffs as her father looked on.

uk.news.yahoo.com

I totally agree with what you say, this is the way I feel about murderers. Their murderous action casts a long, evil shadow, which at times takes the lives of the people closely connected to the victim.
If hanging was here, I'd hang that demon 7 times, once for each baby.
Let's hope she gets that life tariff.

 

[Retro]

Letby thankfully got that whole life order, as expected. See today's update in my first post for details.

 

[Mars]

Letby thankfully got that whole life order, as expected. See today's update in my first post for details.

Yeah, we watched the judge summing up and passing sentence, but it is so not right that the murderer was allowed to stay away from court while sentence was passed!

She should have been forced to attend, sit there, hear it all, feel the hatred laden air all around her.
Hear the recounting of her demonic deeds, hear how she managed to evade capture, how she revelled in her 'cleverness', succeeding to deflect blame from herself, for a long time, while she continued to murder! Going on holidays, having a good time.... She should have been there! Hear it all and smell the hatred.

It was a disgrace to let her off that ordeal.

 

[Retro]

A disgrace indeed. At least the tories are proposing to change the law for future cases and Labour are supporting them, so that's something. I just hope they get on with it. I think it should always be mandatory too, not just if the decides, either. Make every criminal sit through their sentencing and squirm.

PM: Cowardly not to face victims' families in court

Rishi Sunak says it is "cowardly" for convicted criminals not to face victims or their families in court.

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Labour backs law change to force offenders' into dock

It's important for families to see offenders such as Lucy Letby being sentenced, says Sir Keir Starmer.

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Oddly, her parents, who were in the courtroom for the whole trial, were absent for the sentencing too, so it looks like they don't give a shit about the victims, either. We know where she got her psychopathy from, don't we?

If I'd been her dad, I'd be there, apologising profusely to the victims' families for bringing into the world someone who inflicted so much pain on them. I would disown her, in fact.

Lucy Letby’s parents fail to appear in court for her sentencing

Susan and John Letby had attended Manchester Crown Court every day during their daughter’s 10-month trial

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

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And now the do-gooders start to try and free her. What the hell is wrong with these people?!! Among lots of other things, don't they know that she confessed to doing it in notes found at her home? I despise people like this.

“Our first mission is to campaign for a new trial for Lucy Letby, who was recently convicted of murdering infants, under her care at the Countess of Chester Hospital, UK,” the campaign’s website states.

“Lucy Letby’s trial may represent the greatest miscarriage of justice that the UK has ever witnessed. Through fundraising, researching, and legal assistance, we aim to ensure that Lucy Letby can have a fair trial where evidence is reliable. We are currently working to form a group of scientists, lawyers, and activists to aid in the upcoming appeal for Lucy Letby.”

orly? Note how there's zero mention of the babies killed and injured, nor of their families. That's because they don't give a shit about them, only the perpetrator.

Thankfully, appeals against whole life orders are very rare and unsuccessful, so let's hope it never happens.

Lucy Letby appeal fund launched

A campaign to fundraise for Lucy Letby’s appeal has claimed the nurse’s conviction “may represent the greatest miscarriage of justice the UK has ever witnessed”.

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[Mars]

And now the do-gooders start to try and free her. What the hell is wrong with these people?!! Among lots of other things, don't they know that she confessed to doing it in notes found at her home? I despise people like this.



orly? Note how there's zero mention of the babies killed and injured, nor of their families. That's because they don't give a shit about them, only the perpetrator.

Thankfully, appeals against whole life orders are very rare and unsuccessful, so let's hope it never happens.

Lucy Letby appeal fund launched

A campaign to fundraise for Lucy Letby’s appeal has claimed the nurse’s conviction “may represent the greatest miscarriage of justice the UK has ever witnessed”.

uk.style.yahoo.com

oh it is so galling. I kind of expected it to happen wishing that it would not; but here it is.
It seems the more heinous the crime, the more the retarded do-gooders abound and flock to the aid of the hellish perpetrator. Damn you Sarrita Adams!!!!

Recall Myra Hindley? (who can forget).....That satanic confessed torturer of children, had her fan club until the day she breathed her last.
ok so her fan club was to no avail, but I am sure it was a measure of comfort to her that there were people out there campaigning for her release. Those derelicts, I mean both the murderers and their supporters alike, deserve nothing but agony here on Earth and eternal damnation in the Hereafter.

 

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The tories finally do something right. For far too long, life has not meant life, now, it will do so more often. It's got some way to go, but it's a big step in the right direction.

Dangerous offenders who commit the most heinous murders will face life behind bars with no chance of being released under new plans announced by Rishi Sunak.

The Government aims to change the law so that judges are required to impose whole-life orders on the most depraved killers, except in extremely limited circumstances.

Whole-life orders are the most severe penalty available in the country’s criminal justice system.

The law change will also for the first time make this the default sentence for any sexually-motivated murders.

Rishi Sunak announces mandatory life orders for serious crime offenders

Dangerous offenders who commit the most heinous murders will face life behind bars with no chance of being released under new plans announced by Rishi Sunak. Whole-life orders are the most severe penalty available in the country’s criminal justice system. The law change will also for the first...

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[Mars]

The tories finally do something right. For far too long, life has not meant life, now, it will do so more often. It's got some way to go, but it's a big step in the right direction.

Rishi Sunak announces mandatory life orders for serious crime offenders

Dangerous offenders who commit the most heinous murders will face life behind bars with no chance of being released under new plans announced by Rishi Sunak. Whole-life orders are the most severe penalty available in the country’s criminal justice system. The law change will also for the first...

uk.news.yahoo.com

Some fantastic news for a change, lets hope the do-gooders do not interfere.

 

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Finally this is getting some attention. I expect this law to pass.

Criminals to be forced to attend sentencing hearings

It follows a number of high-profile cases where offenders refused to appear, including Lucy Letby.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Mars]

Finally this is getting some attention. I expect this law to pass.

Criminals to be forced to attend sentencing hearings

It follows a number of high-profile cases where offenders refused to appear, including Lucy Letby.

www.bbc.co.uk

I think this time they will go thru with it.

 

[wolfdeer]

I typically don't support the idea of the death penalty, but dang, some people deserve it.

 

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I can't believe the gall of this horrible woman. She knows she did it and so does everyone else, yet she's still trying to get out of it. Thankfully, her appeal has been denied. Shame that the details of her appeal and the judges' reasoning isn't being published though as it would be very interesting.

Child serial killer Lucy Letby has been denied permission to appeal against her convictions for the murder and attempted murder of babies in her care when she worked as a neonatal nurse.

Letby, of Hereford, was convicted in August 2023 of the murders of seven babies and the attempted murders of six others at the Countess of Chester Hospital between 2015 and 2016.

Dame Victoria Sharp, sitting with Lord Justice Holroyde, said they had refused Letby's request to bring an appeal at a short Court of Appeal hearing earlier.

The full reasons for the judges' decision were not made public, with the full details of Letby's appeal bid also unable to be published for legal reasons.

Dame Victoria said: "Having heard her application, we have decided to refuse leave to appeal on all grounds and refuse all associated applications.

"A full judgment will be handed down in due course."

Lucy Letby denied permission for baby murders convictions appeal

The 34-year-old was given 14 whole life terms last year after being found guilty of murdering babies.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

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Good, she's gone down for the attempted murder of another tiny, premature baby. She's already serving a whole life order for the other 5 baby murders and three other attempts, so not sure what further punishment they can apply, but at least her crime has been recognized and justice done. Allowing the other inmates to torture her at will might be a good idea, but alas they're too "civilised" to do that here.

Lucy Letby has been found guilty of trying to kill a two-hour-old baby girl on the hospital ward where she murdered seven other infants.

The former neonatal nurse, who is serving 14 whole-life prison terms, was convicted on Tuesday of attempting to murder the “extremely premature” infant after a retrial at Manchester crown court.

The infant, known as Baby K, was born 15 weeks premature and weighed only 692g (1.52lbs) when Letby was alleged to have tampered with her breathing tube, causing a “life-threatening” deterioration.

This next quote is the mark of a true psychopath. I've noticed that in lots of murder cases, the accused show no response when found guilty. I'll bet they do it to prevent their victim's family and friends from getting any satisfaction and closure from their response.

Trump did the same thing when he was found guilty: zero response, like a fucking statue. The guy who normally can't keep his mouth shut. Yes, I think he's a psycho too. These people are evil to the core and I hope they never go soft on her.

There was no reaction from Letby in the court dock as the jury’s unanimous verdict was delivered.

Lucy Letby found guilty of trying to kill two-hour-old baby

Former neonatal nurse is convicted in retrial after jury in original trial last year was unable to reach verdict

www.theguardian.com

 

[Mars]

Good News for a change, let the derelict rot in jail for the rest of her miserable life.
Justice does not always prevail, but it has prevailed in this case; revenge on that evil thing is so sweet. Knowing she so wants to be out, but Nope, inside she stays for the rest of her days. Lovely.

 

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Justice done once again and the psychopath still proclaims her innocence. Talk about denial. Maybe she even believes it, only she knows. Thankfully she's never coming out of prison. No stupid "reform" for her.

Lucy Letby handed 15th whole-life jail sentence

Former neonatal nurse proclaims innocence from dock as she is sentenced for attempted murder of newborn baby

www.theguardian.com

 

[Geffers]

There was an interesting article in the Guardian recently casting some doubt on the Lucy Letby case, the amusing factor is The Guardian claimed it to be an exclusive report, strange as the concerns raised in the report are the same as raised by the producer of the video for which I provide a link below, even stranger is that this person raised these doubts immediately after the verdict a year ago whereas the Guardian, and subsequently the Telegraph have raised these doubts a year later.

I did not follow the case closely but on viewing this guy's video at the time realised that there was no actual evidence of her committing these murders, conviction appeared to be concluded due to the mathematical chances of her not having committed the murders rather than any conclusive proof she had done so. there was also some diary entry that suggested some form of admission.

It wll be interesting to see how this develops as she was recently denied leave to appeal.

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Geffers

 

[Retro]

Yeah, I read that Guardian article. Don't be fooled, she did it.

One of the articles tells the testimony of a doctor who saw her standing motionless over a tiny premature baby. She was dying, struggling to breath because her breathing tube had been removed. The alarm on the breathing monitor was switched off, too. Thankfully, he stepped in, reattached the tube and the baby survived. Unfortunately, she died a few days later from other causes. I think the Guardian article explained all this.

Letby was very cleaver and sneaky, always covering her tracks, which is why it took so long to catch her.

As far as those stats go, she enters the picture and babies start dying en masse. She's arrested and detained and the death rate drops back down to where it was.

While correlation isn't causation, this is pretty suggestive that it was her, no? At some point, the chance of it being some other reason becomes statistically highly improbable. Again, she did it.

 

[Retro]

There was an interesting article in the Guardian recently casting some doubt on the Lucy Letby case, the amusing factor is The Guardian claimed it to be an exclusive report, strange as the concerns raised in the report are the same as raised by the producer of the video for which I provide a link below, even stranger is that this person raised these doubts immediately after the verdict a year ago whereas the Guardian, and subsequently the Telegraph have raised these doubts a year later.

Here's that article. This is why they didn't report it before: they weren't allowed to. No conspiracy theory.

Now, with the second trial over, the Guardian can report these concerns for the first time.

They touch upon one of the doctors reckoning that she interfered with the breathing tube three times, but the full testimony of that one doctor who saw her standing over the baby isn't in this article, but another one.

Lucy Letby: killer or coincidence? Why some experts question the evidence

Exclusive: Doubts raised over safety of convictions of nurse found guilty of murdering babies

www.theguardian.com

 

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This damned case just won't lie down and die. Now they're questioning the veracity of the evidence against Letby and hence a possible unsafe conviction.

I watched documentary Lucy Letby: Did She Really Do It? linked to below which showed several apparently plausible ways that the evidence could be flawed, although I personally doubt it.

However, what I found most interesting was the one thing that they didn't show: she was caught one time by a passing doctor - who gave evidence in court - who saw her standing over a screaming baby which had had its breathing tube removed and the monitor silenced. She just stood there doing nothing, staring at it. Explain that one, Letby. It's a bit of a smoking gun, isn't it? But, somehow, it wasn't good enough to feature in the documentary which makes me wonder what the agenda was for the makers of that documentary. Anyway, that baby thankfully survived this incident when the doctor intervened, but unfortunately died some time later of other complications. I guess this trauma really didn't help though.

I also read the news article below about her case and the veracity of the evidence. This time, the incident does get a mention, but not much weight is given to it. Something's not right here. Check these out and see what you think.

Here's the link to that documentary. Use a VPN if outside the UK.

https://www.channel5.com/show/lucy-letby-did-she-really-do-it

The documentary is available until 04 August 2028.

In the initial trial, the prosecution said Dr Ravi Jayaram, a consultant, had discovered Letby standing over Baby K at 3.50am on Feb 17, 2016. The baby was deteriorating, and its breathing tube had been dislodged.

We made mistakes over Lucy Letby evidence, admits CPS

Evidence presented in the case of Lucy Letby showing which staff came in and out of the baby unit was wrong, the Crown Prosecution Service has admitted.

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