Air India Flight AI171 crashes seconds after takeoff

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Yes indeed, it can bring a company down and deservedly so. The instigators should go to prison too, but alas that doesn't usually happen.

Well corporate manslaughter is being investigated in Lucy Letby’s case with some senior managers arrested on gross negligence charges, so here’s to some hope similar arrests will be made in this case!

 

[Retro]

Yeah, fingers crossed on that.

 

[Mars]

..... It's all about profit, nothing else, the millions of people they transport are just the pawns needed to make that profit, nothing more than cattle.
I believe this happens in all the safety critical industries like cars, construction of all kinds, hospitals / healthcare, food production etc.

Sad but true.

 

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@Retro from the report, I believe your speculation on the inner workings was correct.

Engine fuel switches cut off before Air India crash that killed 260, preliminary report finds

Early investigation into accident in Ahmedabad in June also contains details of pilots discussing the switches

www.theguardian.com

Seconds after takeoff while at high speed, both engine switches mysteriously moved from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a gap of merely 1 second. Note that this would cause fuel supply to the engines to shut off almost immediately! Yes, consequently, the aircraft started to lose altitude prior to crossing the airport perimeter wall.

It’s clear the pilots did not do this intentionally, nor was there an emergency requiring such a cut off. It’s not easy for the switch to accidentally move to said position, either.

Both engines were able to restart, with one able to stop and reverse deceleration and start to progress to recovery whereas the other was unable to arrest core speed deceleration.

 

[Retro]

This is Mentour Pilot's take on the interim report released on 11th July. It's worth watching as Petter Hörnfeldt is a very high quality YouTuber and a Boeing 737 pilot so you can be confident that you're getting accurate and detailed information, clearly explained. Well worth a watch.

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@Retro did you read the entire report?
I assume you’re the finest of the nerdiest nerds
I’d be quite curious, though, too, so maybe one day I can join your club ! Where is said report published?

 

[Retro]

No, I just watched the videos and read the articles. The Guardian article that you linked to in post 29 links to the full report if you wanna read it.

 

[Ian]

Did you know that in the airline industry, they literally have a cost-benefit they do that they keep quiet about? In other words, they look at the profits they make by taking certain safety shortcuts, the likelihood of a bad accident and the payouts that might be required and cynically factor that as a "cost of doing business". If the cost is too high, then they're more likely to do things properly. It's all about profit, nothing else, the millions of people they transport are just the pawns needed to make that profit, nothing more than cattle.

I believe this happens in all the safety critical industries like cars, construction of all kinds, hospitals / healthcare, food production etc.

^^^ This. I totally agree. Nobody will ever discuss it, but a life has a financial value, which will determine decisions on extra H&S, attitude to risk, or not. Several years ago, I felt that value was around £125K. Allowing for inflation, I would now equate one life to be in the value of £200K-£250K.