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Crims, I think this trend is because people are becoming less religious overall over time. A rather controversial statement, but one I've seen in various objective reports on religiosity. The world will be a better place without religion, which gives you a rather obvious hint on where I stand on this issue. :p
I can see your point. Though I am reminded of RE where several of us would get in trouble preferring to play with magic instead of work :p and I wouldn't necessarily group the two.
 

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It's so cool to get in trouble for doing magic tricks in RE class lol. :cool: When the teacher asks you how you achieved the trick, just say it's real magic and that the power came from the Almighty, then watch their face.
 

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It's so cool to get in trouble for doing magic tricks in RE class lol. :cool: When the teacher asks you how you achieved the trick, just say it's real magic and that the power came from the Almighty, then watch their face.
Lol last time I got in trouble for satanic jokes. I do think though that with the constant emphasis on society as a whole magic does have less interest. Less interest in the act of entertaining others
 

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Lol last time I got in trouble for satanic jokes.
If only I'd been a fly on the wall for that one! :ROFLMAO:

I do like a decent magic trick. Penn and Teller are one of the best acts out there.
 

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Alright, next question:

Is politics designed to avoid emotions, and what does that mean for communities?
Politics by and large isnt personal by definition.

Quick search says: The art or science of government or governing, especially the governing of a political entity, such as a nation, and the administration and control of its internal and external affairs.
 
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I wrote the above question because the world used to be run by music, entirely a more relatable and nuanced society, and with the absence of music (in general) it's just a more political and less human environment.
 

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In observance of this current political climate we are in, bringing the public to become emotionless automatons with fealty only to their governments appears to be in play. When you remove music, joy, faith, family and friends, life is less rich and people then look for something else to reach out for but then what is there to cling too to perpetuate the norms of society and human nature? Without what brings you joy, then what have you left?
 

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In observance of this current political climate we are in, bringing the public to become emotionless automatons with fealty only to their governments appears to be in play. When you remove music, joy, faith, family and friends, life is less rich and people then look for something else to reach out for but then what is there to cling too to perpetuate the norms of society and human nature? Without what brings you joy, then what have you left?
Thanks for taking the time to write about it. I could write a million times about things as they are, which reminds me of Not My Business by Niyi Osundare though it seems like society will need that message repeatedly.
For a change of topic, I am curious. What quotes would you guys choose?

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The U.S. palate now understands spicy. ~Lynn Dornblaser, quoted in "Food Trends," White Hutchinson Leisure & Learning Group, January 2006
Spicy is a modern slang term for provocative.
 

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Thanks for taking the time to write about it. I could write a million times about things as they are, which reminds me of Not My Business by Niyi Osundare though it seems like society will need that message repeatedly.
For a change of topic, I am curious. What quotes would you guys choose?

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I have Not My Business by Niyi Osundare open to view and read, thank you for sharing and for including Quote Garden.

The U.S. palate now understands spicy. ~Lynn Dornblaser, quoted in "Food Trends," White Hutchinson Leisure & Learning Group, January 2006
Spicy is a modern slang term for provocative.

My favorite quote: Carpe Diem! Seize the Day

Interesting that "spicy" is modern slang for provocative.
 

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Personal philosophy: Balling out, or saving. What would you do with this financial climate?


I'd rather live for the moment and spend the money that I make for a while. I can make that money back if I actually live tbh. I have plenty I would spend it on effectively - music gear, opportunities for advertising ideas and sharing stories with video.
 

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Earlier this year we had to move and considered buying a place, but we've decided to keep renting (even though we could afford a mortgage) because we were just offered a renewal of our contract for a year at the same rental price, and with the current UK climate... I don't dare want to take a mortgage on.
 

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@Arantor Well yeah, Truss and her buddy Kwarteng have just skewered the economy. I can't believe what I'm seeing on the news over the past few days. If the bank hadn't saved us, we might have been in meltdown now. I think Truss needs to call a general election sooner rather than later and perhaps may be forced to.

I still don't hate her as much as Johnson though. There was something obsenely odious about that guy. I just couldn't stand him anymore.
 

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That’s just it, I don’t think they actually understand what they’ve done. I’m hearing rumours that the BoE intervention today was mostly to prevent a major run on the pension funds. Think Northern Rock, but with *vastly* more money including decades-to-go and decades-have-passed pension funds and how much money is tied up there. Karmically, though, most of that money funds the typical Tory voter base with their triple lock…
 

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I think incompetence and greed are likely at the bottom of this clusterfuck. I also think it's quite likely that Truss's strings are being pulled by the swivel-eyed loons in the ERG whom she owes for getting her into power.

The silver lining of course, is that the bigger the disaster, the more likely Labour are to finally get in at the next general election. Check out Phil's latest video on this. It makes for hilarious viewing as he explains just how the tories in a lose lose lose situation with the mess that they've made themselves. The party of fiscal prudence my ass. Brexit was enough to totally disprove it, but they just keep getting worse the longer they're in power, unsurprisingly.

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Earlier this year we had to move and considered buying a place, but we've decided to keep renting (even though we could afford a mortgage) because we were just offered a renewal of our contract for a year at the same rental price, and with the current UK climate... I don't dare want to take a mortgage on.
So you have a idea of how much you have. I was thinking a little more philosophically in a seize the day style way though not bad. Great point of view.

I was thinking out loud about wealth in our environment, not only immediate choices but after as well. It's a good perspective for philosophy and personal life considering there'll be economic issues probably until I die anyway.
 
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In a more philosophical way… we’re both pretty practical people, my wife especially, so while we might occasionally spend frivolously, it won’t be on any sizeable item - any more sizeable or expensive item will be studied and ruthlessly investigated. Our current washing machine, for example, was the final product of studying 600 different models available.

On the broader stage, my wife and I both lean fairly left, we’re both very onboard with paying taxes for (good) socialised services. It’s just that this country seems to spend 10-15 years strip-mining itself then 5-10 years slowly healing, rinse repeat. Any bailout in this climate just feels like it will be rerouted to the pockets of those that don’t really need it.

But if I could be reasonably assured that at least a decent percentage of the money would go where it is needed, I’d be in favour of a bailout in general - prise the fat cats off the money taps, give people a safety net, give them room to breathe so we’re not in this ever-continuing merry-go-round of crises, and the economy will mostly start to heal itself.

You see, the problem is the fat cats diverting funds to themselves - trickle down doesn’t work in spite of the “big bosses make jobs” mantra. It might have been partially just about true once upon a time but it certainly isn’t now. Give workers carrots instead of sticks and watch them rise to the occasion as happy, productive workers. Then watch as the people, happily earning, start spending more. Confidence grows, the market heals, such as that’s a thing.
 

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In a more philosophical way… we’re both pretty practical people, my wife especially, so while we might occasionally spend frivolously, it won’t be on any sizeable item - any more sizeable or expensive item will be studied and ruthlessly investigated. Our current washing machine, for example, was the final product of studying 600 different models available.

But if I could be reasonably assured that at least a decent percentage of the money would go where it is needed, I’d be in favour of a bailout in general - prise the fat cats off the money taps, give people a safety net, give them room to breathe so we’re not in this ever-continuing merry-go-round of crises, and the economy will mostly start to heal itself.

You see, the problem is the fat cats diverting funds to themselves - trickle down doesn’t work in spite of the “big bosses make jobs” mantra. It might have been partially just about true once upon a time but it certainly isn’t now. Give workers carrots instead of sticks and watch them rise to the occasion as happy, productive workers. Then watch as the people, happily earning, start spending more. Confidence grows, the market heals, such as that’s a thing.
That's pretty good to hear. Again changing from phone to desktop made me lose text :\
The idea of scrutinising every purchase does sound exhausting however if it's done by rote and not because you actually feel like doing so. That's again my issue with all governments particularly post Teresa May - I don't think that bothering to focus in on bosses is as practical as finding the more diligent option which is usually hidden somewhere. I don't believe in capitalism as a system more than a means to an ends, personal interest.

I like the deconstruction of the methology it's interesting to actually be ideological over it because otherwise we'd be politicians.
 

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Again changing from phone to desktop made me lose text :\

Data loss is awful, isn't it?

I really don't like the way it's still a problem for you, as the built-in XF backup should prevent this. Perhaps it's a browser setting, I don't know.

I suggest you start a thread about it in the section below perhaps, with as much detail* as you can about the problem. Myself and the other members will then see if we can get to the bottom of this and fix it for you. No one should have to go through the frustration of losing their unsaved posts like that.


*Details include things like which operating system you're on, switching between browsers or devices, closing browser windows, certain sequence of actions etc. Whatever seems to trigger it and whatever you think is relevant.

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Reading your post again, I don't think there's a system issue here as it's a different browser on a different computer so I don't think XF can prevent it. If you went back to the phone, the unsaved post should still be there.

Please do still start that thread though if you think there's a problem.
 

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I've got a beef with the amount of criticism that is manufactured online. I have no problems with the idea of criticism, even if it's usually on the level of the Daily Mail - a bunch of rhetoric and lazy ignorance toward deeper thoughts. It's the amount of lazy writing.

Happiness is being content to not share your ideas all the time. SISO
 
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So much is manufactured online, it's an easy way to keep the viewers coming back for more. I've long despised the nastier newspapers for their ongoing 'manufacturing of outrage' because that's basically the Mail and the Express's business model right there.
 

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So much is manufactured online, it's an easy way to keep the viewers coming back for more. I've long despised the nastier newspapers for their ongoing 'manufacturing of outrage' because that's basically the Mail and the Express's business model right there.
Guessing you mean fake news by this. It's why I support verified sources for news.
 

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Not even fake news, just news spun intentionally with the purpose of generating anger.

The Mail in particular is good at turning what should have been non-stories into OUTRAGE.
 
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