Arantor
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I meant to talk about this before, but it's been a particular study for me for a long time now. Backstory: my wife was one of the earliest users of SMF, and used it to run a roleplay forum set in the Harry Potter universe. Discussing changes to SMF was how we met back in the day!
Anyway, that's not what I'm here to talk about. What I'm here to talk about is the phenomenon of roleplay forums in general and how they differ to regular forums.
So what is a roleplay forum? I usually describe it as collaborative writing but in truth it's a little more complicated than that. What usually happens is that you get a forum, you set up subaccounts somehow so that you can post as different characters and then you get together with other people to jointly write stories with these personas.
For example, in a Harry Potter themed site, someone will likely play Dumbledore, the head of the magical school Hogwarts, will open the annual feast at start of the school year as a new thread, then the new students will post as they're getting sorted into the school houses etc.
As far as genres go, fandoms are very popular - Harry Potter/magical universe continues to be popular (in spite of JK Rowling's ongoing commentary), the MCU/X-Men is very popular at the moment both for playing the existing superheroes and for creating new ones in the same style/vein. Most big ongoing franchises that are popular enough will tend to have roleplay kicking around to tell stories in the same universe. Some people play canon characters, some people make new characters. Some people mix and match.
There's of course the original settings, e.g. borrowing from a time and place in history and adding a twist, or even a fully original venue and setting, but those are harder to get going because it's easier to attract people who are familiar with a fandom and its existing works as a point of reference. I don't know, for example, how hard it'd be to join a 'original Victorian era setting' even though I have some base knowledge of the time period in England.
It's also interesting to note how many of these places skew towards 'powered characters' in one form or another - whether that's superheroes in the comic book sense, or magic users, or supernatural creatures (werewolves and vampires very very common, especially in the aftermath of Twilight).
What is also noticeable is that there are splits in the communities in terms of style and choice; the more technical people self-host, and you'll see mostly SMF or MyBB installs with a smaller (though not insignificant) XF or IPB following, usually with a reasonably custom theme but it'll skew towards utilitarian rather than artsy and usually will have customisations to suit their needs pretty well. The less technical people will run on the hosted forums (ProBoards, Jcink, etc.) but will likely be much more artistically inclined with much heavier use of graphics and design, but making do with whatever functionality the forum comes with and whatever they can jury-rig in JavaScript. It is also with interest I note that there is a very pronounced gender bias that aligns along these two sides. (This is not a value judgement, merely an observation.)
It also makes it hard to deal with if you're somewhere in the middle of these two groups; the technical crowd doesn't tend to inhabit the slightly more... flouncy nature of something like the Harry Potter fandom. So my project is somewhere in the middle; it appeals to the general genre and tone of the one group but doesn't fit because we don't use their platform of choice (and if you thought the XF/IPS people were tribal, the Jcink crowd are vastly more so). Meanwhile we're also not nearly as artsy as the the artsy kind because we want to do things like work well on mobile and this comes with a higher skill barrier than the majority of the artsy crowd usually implements, so we deliberately don't be as artsy as we can.
But last week I started an experiment, I'm still ongoing with data gathering. You see, the Jcink subcommunity isn't *really* technical, and also capable of some... self delusion - these people talk about how 'they prefer Jcink because it's familiar' but the average level of theming is such that no two sites look or behave the same so any familiarity is really actually somewhat limited. With this in mind, so what I did was take my existing site, make a new hosted account on Jcink, themed it up to look the same as my site, then wired up some JavaScript to populate the Jcink front page with live data. All the links point to the real site, but superficially you'd not notice this unless you went digging. But it now has the correct domain name to not put people off. We shall see how this plays out.
As for the other similarities or differences... the RP world operates like it's 2006 still. You want to show off your friends? You're all going to collect each others' 88x31 affiliate images and display them at the foot of your front page. You're going to make boards solely for guests to post ads in - and you'll go to their site and post an ad of your own once they've been to yours, in a form of site-to-site marketing (that isn't really effective but everyone does it anyway). You'll also post ads on various Tumblr boards regularly to get people in the door, and likely join several Discord servers to do something similar.
I think that's all I have in me for tonight - I'll take a deeper look at the features people really use in a further post tomorrow.
Anyway, that's not what I'm here to talk about. What I'm here to talk about is the phenomenon of roleplay forums in general and how they differ to regular forums.
So what is a roleplay forum? I usually describe it as collaborative writing but in truth it's a little more complicated than that. What usually happens is that you get a forum, you set up subaccounts somehow so that you can post as different characters and then you get together with other people to jointly write stories with these personas.
For example, in a Harry Potter themed site, someone will likely play Dumbledore, the head of the magical school Hogwarts, will open the annual feast at start of the school year as a new thread, then the new students will post as they're getting sorted into the school houses etc.
As far as genres go, fandoms are very popular - Harry Potter/magical universe continues to be popular (in spite of JK Rowling's ongoing commentary), the MCU/X-Men is very popular at the moment both for playing the existing superheroes and for creating new ones in the same style/vein. Most big ongoing franchises that are popular enough will tend to have roleplay kicking around to tell stories in the same universe. Some people play canon characters, some people make new characters. Some people mix and match.
There's of course the original settings, e.g. borrowing from a time and place in history and adding a twist, or even a fully original venue and setting, but those are harder to get going because it's easier to attract people who are familiar with a fandom and its existing works as a point of reference. I don't know, for example, how hard it'd be to join a 'original Victorian era setting' even though I have some base knowledge of the time period in England.
It's also interesting to note how many of these places skew towards 'powered characters' in one form or another - whether that's superheroes in the comic book sense, or magic users, or supernatural creatures (werewolves and vampires very very common, especially in the aftermath of Twilight).
What is also noticeable is that there are splits in the communities in terms of style and choice; the more technical people self-host, and you'll see mostly SMF or MyBB installs with a smaller (though not insignificant) XF or IPB following, usually with a reasonably custom theme but it'll skew towards utilitarian rather than artsy and usually will have customisations to suit their needs pretty well. The less technical people will run on the hosted forums (ProBoards, Jcink, etc.) but will likely be much more artistically inclined with much heavier use of graphics and design, but making do with whatever functionality the forum comes with and whatever they can jury-rig in JavaScript. It is also with interest I note that there is a very pronounced gender bias that aligns along these two sides. (This is not a value judgement, merely an observation.)
It also makes it hard to deal with if you're somewhere in the middle of these two groups; the technical crowd doesn't tend to inhabit the slightly more... flouncy nature of something like the Harry Potter fandom. So my project is somewhere in the middle; it appeals to the general genre and tone of the one group but doesn't fit because we don't use their platform of choice (and if you thought the XF/IPS people were tribal, the Jcink crowd are vastly more so). Meanwhile we're also not nearly as artsy as the the artsy kind because we want to do things like work well on mobile and this comes with a higher skill barrier than the majority of the artsy crowd usually implements, so we deliberately don't be as artsy as we can.
But last week I started an experiment, I'm still ongoing with data gathering. You see, the Jcink subcommunity isn't *really* technical, and also capable of some... self delusion - these people talk about how 'they prefer Jcink because it's familiar' but the average level of theming is such that no two sites look or behave the same so any familiarity is really actually somewhat limited. With this in mind, so what I did was take my existing site, make a new hosted account on Jcink, themed it up to look the same as my site, then wired up some JavaScript to populate the Jcink front page with live data. All the links point to the real site, but superficially you'd not notice this unless you went digging. But it now has the correct domain name to not put people off. We shall see how this plays out.
As for the other similarities or differences... the RP world operates like it's 2006 still. You want to show off your friends? You're all going to collect each others' 88x31 affiliate images and display them at the foot of your front page. You're going to make boards solely for guests to post ads in - and you'll go to their site and post an ad of your own once they've been to yours, in a form of site-to-site marketing (that isn't really effective but everyone does it anyway). You'll also post ads on various Tumblr boards regularly to get people in the door, and likely join several Discord servers to do something similar.
I think that's all I have in me for tonight - I'll take a deeper look at the features people really use in a further post tomorrow.