The Hamas-Israel war thread

[Tiffany]

I agree, I don't think you should be politically correct when the truth is people were killed savagely including small children. There was a huge Pro-Hamas rally in New York again. It was unbelievable in size and very unsettling.

 

[Retro]

Oh man, so many bloody pro-Hamas rallies all the sodding time here too. What the hell is wrong with people?

 

[Tiffany]

There are too many pro-Hamas and pro-Palestinian rallies. There were more this weekend in Washington DC and California. A poor Jewish man in California was killed by a pro-Hamas man that threw the megaphone at his head, he fell back on the pavement and died. I read that tiktok is the largest media website responsible for promoting pro-Hamas.

 

[Retro]

I read that tiktok is the largest media website responsible for promoting pro-Hamas.

Why am I not surprised that it's TT that's guilty of this? They're always at the centre of some controversy.

 

[Tiffany]

Why am I not surprised that it's TT that's guilty of this? They're always at the centre of some controversy.

The CCP has a very broad reach across the globe.

 

[Mars]

The CCP has a very broad reach across the globe.

Sad but true

 

[Tiffany]

Has anyone noticed the war in Israel is dominating the news and we are not hearing much about the war in Ukraine lately? I have to purposely look for news about Ukraine now.

 

[Retro]

I noticed that straight away Tiffs. So plays into Putin's hands ffs.

At least the BBC and The Guardian both continue to have Ukraine sections on their front pages.

 

[Mars]

I noticed that straight away Tiffs. So plays into Putin's hands ffs.

At least the BBC and The Guardian both continue to have Ukraine sections on their front pages.

yeah, plays directly into putin's hands.

 

[Tiffany]

Disturbing developments as we are trying to get aid inside of Gaza to the hospitals too. There are many pre-mature babies without incubators. So many inhumane repercussions from this war between Hamas and Israel. I think about all of the displaced pets and animals too.

 

[Retro]

Finally, proof that the Dar al-Shifa hospital in Gaza houses hamas terrorists who must be flushed out and killed.

The Israeli army has published video footage that it says shows the first solid evidence of a sophisticated Hamas tunnel network underneath Gaza City’s Dar al-Shifa hospital complex.

In a statement on Sunday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said troops operating near the in-patients building at al-Shifa found a booby-trapped pickup truck in a garage inside the medical complex’s walls. When it was destroyed in a controlled explosion, a tunnel was exposed beneath the floor of the garage, the IDF said, providing photographs.

IDF publishes footage of what it says is Hamas tunnel at al-Shifa hospital

Israel says opening was discovered beneath floor of a garage within Gaza medical complex’s walls

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[Tiffany]

Finally, proof that the Dar al-Shifa hospital in Gaza houses hamas terrorists who must be flushed out and killed.

IDF publishes footage of what it says is Hamas tunnel at al-Shifa hospital

Israel says opening was discovered beneath floor of a garage within Gaza medical complex’s walls

uk.news.yahoo.com

I've seen video of it and it's terrifying. Thank you for the link with more detail.

 

[Retro]

It's great that hostages have been freed, but the price was too high and this article explains why. This is the core of it, as far as I can see:

Hamas is set to release 50 terror victims, and Israel will release 150 accused or convicted criminals, a ratio the reverse of what we should consider civilised.

So, hamas got what they wanted, right? No, what should have happened is that hamas should be on their knees, begging for the bombing to stop and released all the hostages unconditionally, not just a few hostages for loads of terrorists. Now those 150 freed terrorists will be committing more terrorist atrocities. The problem has just gotten bigger, as the article says:

The benefits of freeing hostages are visible now. The much larger costs are on their way.

On top of that, support from America is starting to wane too, while attention continues to be diverted away from the Russia-Ukraine was which is actually much more critical since it's world order defining.

Hamas has just won a major victory over Israel

Beware of terrorists bearing gifts. Compassionate goals and unrelenting war make for a complex mix. While freeing Hamas’s October 7 victims is laudable, there are right and wrong ways to do so. There are costs as well as benefits. Here, Hamas has won a significant victory. Whether the deal sets...

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[Tiffany]

This exchange of hostages for terrorists has me baffled. I do believe though, this seems to be what Israel does, as there have been several types of exchanges in the past, like the Yun Kipper terror attack and in 1971 then in 2007. I'm not up to speed on this, still reading, but just first impression.