Julian Assange

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With various freedoms being slowly eroded the ongoing saga surrounding Julian Assange can easily be forgotten. Here is an interesting video by Naomi Brockwell that analyses some of the accusations against him.

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I've not watched the video yet, but from what I've read of Assange and WikiLeaks, he's the good guy in all of this by exposing corruption that the powerful would rather keep hidden.
 

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Watched the video: Assange should be hailed a hero, not persecuted like he is.

On top of that, the video debunks the lie that WikiLeaks published unredacted documents. It was actually The Guardian of all publications who published the password to unlock the encrypted file with all the unredacted information. WikiLeaks actually worked with TG and other publications to make a careful release of information with sensitive items redacted, but they don't want us to know that.

I'm really glad WikiLeaks hasn't been shut down.

 

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Edward Snowdon similar scenario, exposed abuses by the US Government and now unable to return to US. Awkward situation, employed in a security environment but saw US was spying on its own citizens. Made public then had to flee.

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Edward Snowdon similar scenario, exposed abuses by the US Government and now unable to return to US. Awkward situation, employed in a security environment but saw US was spying on its own citizens. Made public then had to flee.

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Jobs in security usually have that as a prerequisite. As much as I dislike it, rules exist and will get enforced. Erm... there are definitely places that allow opportunities like Snowden though he could've joined.
 
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Jobs in security usually have that as a prerequisite. As much as I dislike it, rules exist and will get enforced. Erm... there are definitely places that allow opportunities like Snowden though he could've joined.

We watched the Edward Snowden movie years ago. Very interesting and we've had lots of discussions dealing with the internal conflict between right, wrong, and the outcome of what Snowden exposed....totally get your point about rules and integrity.


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Edward Snowdon similar scenario, exposed abuses by the US Government and now unable to return to US. Awkward situation, employed in a security environment but saw US was spying on its own citizens. Made public then had to flee.

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....and now isn't he officially a Russian citizen?
 

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He should be deported back over to Australia. Let Australia deal with him.
The fact is yes he spied on the government and got caught.
 

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This can be a divisive subject, Julian Assange was guilty of highlighting US surveillance on supposedly friendly persons or nations, for that he has effectively been given a life sentence. Edward Snowden would have got likewise but escaped.

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This can be a divisive subject, Julian Assange was guilty of highlighting US surveillance on supposedly friendly persons or nations, for that he has effectively been given a life sentence. Edward Snowden would have got likewise but escaped.

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It is such a travesty of justice, it happens all the time unfortunately. It is really infuriating, so so unjust.
 

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I don't think Assange is a criminal; his revelationd are backed by facts, the powers to be hated it, so they take away his rights, sling him in prison, and forget about him. Really sad.
You might of misunderstood me. I was agreeing with Retro, the Fed treats both Assange and Snowden as criminals.
 

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@Mars Snowdon did pretty much as Assange, exposed corruption. They want to get him too, but he was luckier at escaping and hence is still free, albeit remaining a wanted man. In short, they're both heroes.
 

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@Mars Snowdon did pretty much as Assange, exposed corruption. They want to get him too, but he was luckier at escaping and hence is still free, albeit remaining a wanted man. In short, they're both heroes.
If I remember correctly, Snowden disclosed classified information, he is now a naturalized Russian.
This should tell you something about him.
 

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Assange disclosed classified information too. The state will make sure embarrassing information of their misdeeds remains classified, you can be sure of that and of course, that goes for any country, not just America.

Yes, escaping to Russia is how he got away. One can come up with conspiracy theories on that and sure, it's a bit suspicious, but it's likely the only place that America couldn't reach him one way or another. The bigger picture is exposing the corruption that he did.
 

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Assange disclosed classified information too. The state will make sure embarrassing information of their misdeeds remains classified, you can be sure of that and of course, that goes for any country, not just America.

Yes, escaping to Russia is how he got away. One can come up with conspiracy theories on that and sure, it's a bit suspicious, but it's likely the only place that America couldn't reach him one way or another. The bigger picture is exposing the corruption that he did.
Exactly the point.
 

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Yes, escaping to Russia is how he got away. One can come up with conspiracy theories on that and sure, it's a bit suspicious, but it's likely the only place that America couldn't reach him one way or another. The bigger picture is exposing the corruption that he did.

Agree Retro, Russia probably one of few, maybe only place that would not extradite him to US.

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