The Trump downfall thread

[Geffers]

Since Ronald Regan ran (and was the first President I voted for)... I have never been a Democrat

You respond with great detail but detail that cannot necessarily be verified with any certainly.

You say electric is not the issue but the infrastructure that the Republicans haven't invested in, so what is the issue in California? They get many power cuts. You say you live in Texas and there is no immigration issue there, my girlfriend lives in California and she says there is, so is she wrong, or are you wrong, or is it OK where you are and not OK where she is?

As for trans, what one does in their private life is their business, when it affects others the line needs to be drawn. If women feel uncomfortable with a trans in their changing rooms, whether the person in question has had the op or not, then the women's views must be respected, a trans woman is not a woman, Same with sport, which you admit you agree with.

You mentioned that there is no issue with schools, parents and gender issues, that was one of the main reasons Elon Musk is moving his business out of California, that old saying, give an inch, then another, eventually it takes a mile.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/15/us/california-schools-parents-pronouns/index.html

You mention about Ashli Babbitt, the video I saw from the J6 releases showed she was behind another guy when she was shot and killed, appreciate policing standards in UK and US are different but we have a firearms officer on a murder charge who shot and killed a person known to use firearms, that person had moments earlier intentionally drove a car at police and was later shot and killed. Our police could never shoot into a crowd. A warning shot could have been fired, there were other options.

Recently a neighbour of mine, dislikes Trump, showed me a report stating the Georgia Governor had banned the giving of food and drink to voters standing in line, I thought it illogical so checked myself and found it actually applied to political parties or those connected with political parties and is aimed at stopping canvassing or coercion by political parties on the day of voting plus it only applied to a certain distance from the voting station, so what seemed like a nasty rule headlined to make the Republicans look mean was actually quite reasonable. It is all down to how it is reported.

If I tried to confirm or refute your detailed reply by the time I had done so the election will be over so we'll have to just accept you feel Trump is a danger to democracy, I think the current administration is a threat to US Democracy, our's in UK is under threat already, our recently installed Prime Minister has shortened prison sentences of many prisoners and let them out, some having committed nasty crimes, and he is encouraging the Judges to give jail sentences to people posting messages on Social media criticising the Government handling of immigration, using inciting racial hatred as the evidence, we have similar to US Southern Border.

 

[Astro What]

You respond with great detail but detail that cannot necessarily be verified with any certainly.

Yeah, it can be verified with certainty by those that open their eyes and research. It doesn't take rocket science in todays age.

You say electric is not the issue but the infrastructure that the Republicans haven't invested in, so what is the issue in California?

Don't live in California so I can't tell you what their issue is. But it probably also has to do with the infrastructure being restricted by their Democratic policies.
In Texas, our power system is a little different than the other states.

You say you live in Texas and there is no immigration issue there, my girlfriend lives in California and she says there is, so is she wrong, or are you wrong, or is it OK where you are and not OK where she is?

And no, I did NOT say that there were no immigration issues. here You read that into what I stated from a position of your belief. What I did state was that we in Texas are NOT having the [iciode]rampant raging migrant crime[/icode] that Trump and his cronies like to spout on about. I also reflected to you how we in Texas can base that upon fact since we DO track the immigration status of those charged (and convicted) with crimes, which other states do NOT do.

If women feel uncomfortable with a trans in their changing rooms, whether the person in question has had the op or not, then the women's views must be respected, a trans woman is not a woman, Same with sport, which you admit you agree with.

How do they know it's a trans? Are they scoping out the equipment on others? If so, is not that in itself a little creepy?
As I clearly stated, if they have not transitioned, they need to be provided their own rooms.

You mentioned that there is no issue with schools, parents and gender issues, that was one of the main reasons Elon Musk is moving his business out of California, that old saying, give an inch, then another, eventually it takes a mile.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/15/us/california-schools-parents-pronouns/index.html

And I see zero issues with TEACHING students that not everyone walks in lockstep as male or female, and that we all need to respect others. That's the issue with the conservatives, they can't respect choices of others as it goes against their pattern of belief.

A warning shot could have been fired, there were other options.

And that tells me all I need to know.
Guess what, you fire a warning shot and a bullet comes out. They don't carry blanks in their weapons. It HAS to go somewhere. And your next response will probably be "well, they could fire it into the ground". Ever hear of ricochets? That's why our law enforcement is taught you do NOT fire a warning shot.
And sorry, when the shot was fired, there was nobody in front of her.

Spoiler: images of shooting hidden

She is the one in black and this was immediately after the shot was fired and she was falling backwards. And these images were screenshots of the video taken by an activist that was present.

Recently a neighbour of mine, dislikes Trump, showed me a report stating the Georgia Governor had banned the giving of food and drink to voters standing in line, I thought it illogical so checked myself and found it actually applied to political parties or those connected with political parties and is aimed at stopping canvassing or coercion by political parties on the day of voting plus it only applied to a certain distance from the voting station, so what seemed like a nasty rule headlined to make the Republicans look mean was actually quite reasonable. It is all down to how it is reported.

No, the Governor did not make the rule, the Republican led Legislature did and he signed it.
And I don't know where you got your information from that it is restricted to political parties doing it. This is the direct text of the legislative act that became law (note, I highlighted the relevant portion to make it easier for you to understand that it's not related to political parties but ANY person):

1807 SECTION 33.
1808 Said chapter is further amended by revising subsections (a) and (e) of Code
1809 Section 21-2-414, relating to restrictions on campaign activities and public opinion polling
1810 within the vicinity of a polling place, cellular phone use prohibited, prohibition of candidates
1811 from entering certain polling places, and penalty, as follows:
1812 "(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any
1813 person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give,
1814 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and
1815 drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any
1816 person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables
1817 or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:
1818 (1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is
1819 established;
1820 (2) Within any polling place; or
1821 (3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.
1822 These restrictions shall not apply to conduct occurring in private offices or areas which
1823 cannot be seen or heard by such electors."

And I don't like the Democratic party being in power, but ultimately between the two, Harris is the lesser evil. When you have as many Republicans that were in Trumps administration either saying that they will not vote for him or that they will be voting for Harris because they consider him not qualified it is one of those things you really need to pay attention to.

 

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a neighbour of mine, dislikes Trump

You have a great neighbour. Please let them know that the Retro approvez of them.

 

[Retro]

@Geffers I'm going to be really blunt here: you might have heard of how Trump talked lovingly and admiringly at a recent rally about Arnold Palmer's cock. Yes, the man's member and how big and magnificent it apparently was. Oh and Palmer is dead, too.

Now, even for you, as someone who normally has unshakeable faith in Trump isn't this extremely cringe worthy? Embarrassing? Doesn't this sound very strange, weird, inappropriate and incredibly offputting? Watching that makes me do a strong "eugh!", gross out. Also, what does that story have to do with electing a president and their policies? Clearly nothing. Perhaps Trump is a straight-acting closet gay man and hence why he keeps banging on and on about being "strong and masculine" all the time? Hence, does what he said not set off any warning bells in your mind about Trump? Even small doubts, anything at all?

The actual clip starts at 1:33, but I recommend watching the whole video for the full context. Credit to YouTuber Adam Mockler for articulating so well everything wrong with what Trump did here.

Seriously, I'd be really interested in your response to this one rather than just letting it slide like so many of my Trump comments to you.

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@Astro What I hope you managed not to barf watching that.

 

[Astro What]

I hope you managed not to barf watching that.

Already seen it... and BTC did a decent video that had it in his content also.
I think even some of the MAGA faithful are starting to realize that Trump has started even more quickly traveling down the path to senility.

 

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Already seen it... and BTC did a decent video that had it in his content also.

Yeah, I thought BTC had and it would be great if you could post that too so we get more than one perspective on it.

I think even some of the MAGA faithful are starting to realize that Trump has started even more quickly traveling down the path to senility.

I really hope so. This might finally be his downfall as it's unbelievable how stubbornly high his poll ratings remain this close to the election despite the increasingly insane things that he comes out with which don't seem to be putting a dent in it. Dunno how it affects you, but it really does my head in. Below is an article on his mental decline, written by a doctor.

I still hold out hope however that his declining mental health ends up being his October surprise and puts voters off him on election day. That huge rise in postal voting that's been reported hopefully means it's Democrats voting him out.

It reminds me of the scandals in the UK tory party in the Boris Johnson era of a few years ago. It became one serious scandal after the other which he was seemingly impervious to with his teflon shoulders; he was just literally taking the piss. Then partygate happened and everything changed. This was a bullet that he couldn't quite dodge: a heat seeking rocket powered one, a tiny missile that just kept coming back round no matter how he ducked and weaved, with it eventually, finally, bringing him down, forcing him out of office (he was so bitter! lol). This proved that there is a point at which the scandal will matter and also what kind of scandal it is. Hopefully, Trump's cognitive decline will be his undodgeable heat seeking missile.

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s recent public appearances have been marked by his apparent confusion, by rambling speeches and by his bizarre claims that go beyond mere gaffes or misstatements. In one particularly troubling incident during a town hall event, Trump vividly described what he said was the audience’s reactions to the debate he had against Vice President Kamala Harris. There was no audience when Trump debated Harris.

As a physician, admittedly one who hasn’t examined Trump or observed him in person, I find myself increasingly concerned about his cognitive fitness. While age-related decline is a reality millions of Americans must confront, his recent appearances and the questionable credibility of reports made by his treating physicians should make us all concerned.

Opinion | I've never treated Trump as a patient. Here's why his behavior worries me from afar.

While age-related decline is a reality millions of Americans must confront, Trump's recent public behavior should make us all concerned.

www.msnbc.com

 

[live627]

I looked for an actual clip instead of relying on a joker that seemingly planted dumb gaping faces in their thumbnail. I hereby declare that whosoever is making a big fuss out of this has their dirty minds squarely in the gutter. And cannot take a joke. Trump *did not specify*, so the rest is up to the imagination.

My brother and I learned to only trust messages sent directly from the man himself and not the media''s spin back when he got covid so here's his full story with bad audio

MEDIA=youtube]diw3akjdjkg[/MED

 

[Astro What]

My brother and I learned to only trust messages sent directly from the man himself and not the media''s spin back when he got covid so here's his full story with bad audio

MEDIA=youtube]diw3akjdjkg[/MED

Seems that video you linked to (your BB code URL is malformed) no longer exists.



I wonder what that reason could be? Generally YT videos don't disappear unless they have violated the YT terms in some way.
And if talking about Trump, then I really hope folks actually ARE paying attention to what the man himself is saying and not discounting it as simply exaggerations like a large part of the MAGA party faithful in office would like you to do. When you start paying attention to his rambling "weave" and the statements they contain you realize he has an issue with maintaining a consistent thought for very long.
As for when Trump got Covid... wasn't that when he hosted a super spreader event that resulted in multiple others catching it?
Meanwhile, Trump (and his campaign) continue to grift/stiff others. In 2016 and 2020 they had a history of failing to pay their part of his rally costs. That continues into this cycle also. The only thing is now many cities are requiring his campaign to pre-pay the expenses. In other words, he can't get credit.

 

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I looked for an actual clip instead of relying on a joker that seemingly planted dumb gaping faces in their thumbnail. I hereby declare that whosoever is making a big fuss out of this has their dirty minds squarely in the gutter. And cannot take a joke. Trump *did not specify*, so the rest is up to the imagination.

My brother and I learned to only trust messages sent directly from the man himself and not the media''s spin back when he got covid so here's his full story with bad audio

MEDIA=youtube]diw3akjdjkg[/MED

My video shows you what he actually said, so the opinion surrounding it by Adam Mockler doesn't change it. It's interesting to see what outrageous excuses you Trump supporters come up with to deflect away from what Trump's saying, like you are here.

Anyway, your attempt at embedding a YT video unfortunately failed, leading to the non-functional mess that we see. I Googled the video ID and came up with this as the closest match, which is the 12 minutes of bullshit that Trump spewed including his fascination with Arnold's cock at 11:20. If that shocks you when I phrase it so bluntly like that, then you might get an inkling of just how bad it was. This takes the crown for the most unhinged thing he's said so far and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes further.

For your convenience, I've linked to it starting at that point. If you play it from the start however, you can clearly see that what came before and after makes no difference to the extreme inappropriatness of what he said, or what commentary a YouTuber decides to add to it.

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To help you link to a working YT video here's what you do and it's very easy.

If you'd like to please try again after following these instructions, we'd all be interested to see what you were trying to show us. Don't worry, while we might vehemently disagree about Trump, we're still friends.

• Right click the video
• Select "Copy video URL" from the popup menu
• Paste it into the NerdZone editor window on its own line. It's critical that there's no text either side of it. You don't need to faff around with the Media button in the editor, which is probably where it went wrong for you. Just ignore that button
• Click Preview: you'll see the embedded video window and it will work, too
• Click Post reply.

EDIT
Alternately, just copy the URL from the address bar and paste that. See the next two posts for context.

 

[Astro What]

Select "Copy video URL" from the popup menu

Generally you don't even need to do that. Simply copy the URL in your browser address bar and paste it if you are on a desktop.
I don't use mobile for stuff like forum visits myself, don't like the small keyboard interface.

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Now, notice the source of the YT video... NewsMax, which is far from a liberal source.

 

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Yes you can do that, but you get a shorter and neater URL doing it my way:

URL bar:
https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=diw3aKjDJKg

Right click:
https: //youtu.be/diw3aKjDJKg

which fits in with my perfectionism. Both are equally valid though. I've edited my original post to add your way.

Thanks for the BTC video.

 

[Retro]

Following the face palming revelation above and his psychopathic tendencies with his suggestion some time ago of just letting his nephew's severely disabled son die as it's too inconvenient to let him live, it turns out that in 2020 when he was "president", he balked at being asked to pay 60 grand for the funeral of female Mexican soldier Vanessa Guillen who was brutally raped and murdered by a male soldier: Trump refused to pay a dime. Just think how insulted her family felt and out of pocket, too.

That outburst came after Trump invited Guillén’s loved ones to the White House and offered to pay for her funeral, The Atlantic reported.

Guillén, a 20-year-old American of Mexican ancestry from Houston, was buried in her hometown on Aug. 15, 2020. Months later, in December, Trump reportedly asked his advisers in a meeting, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?”

When an aide responded “yes” with the bill’s total, Trump allegedly unraveled. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f---ing Mexican,” he said, according to people in the meeting who spoke to the Atlantic.

The magazine reported that Trump then turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and ordered him, “Don’t pay it!” That order was apparently heeded by Meadows, as the Atlantic reported that Trump never sent a dime to help cover funeral costs for the slain woman.

What more proof does one need that this piece of shit is a racist psychopath who should be locked up, not given the most powerful job in the world?

Trump Raged at Slain Soldier’s Funeral Bill: ‘$60K to Bury a F***ing Mexican’

Donald Trump raged when he learned the funeral bill for Vanessa Guillén—the U.S. soldier who was sexually harassed and horrifically murdered by a male soldier at Fort Hood in 2020—cost $60,000, a bombshell report revealed Tuesday.That outburst came after Trump invited Guillén’s loved ones to the...

uk.news.yahoo.com

Vanessa Guillen

Trump's psychopathic suggestion to just let the disabled kid die:

The Trump downfall thread

When the "fixes" are done by executive order, most (not all) are easy to reverse by the next administration. His "out" will be... well, I fixed it, they screwed it up for you. The secret sauce is if he worked with Congress to get it passed, it's MUCH harder to reverse. But he knows that...

nerdzone.uk

 

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It looks like Trump is sabotaging his own campaign to the point where may lose due to his mistakes. Good, do continue, won't you?

Opinion | Donald Trump is running his campaign into the ground

Trump’s chaotic campaign strategy is a preview of what we should expect if he wins.

www.msnbc.com

 

[Astro What]

I think the biggest wake-up call should be how many of his high-level staff from his administration (all the way up to his Vice President) have spoken out against him or have not spoken out in support of him.
For someone who claims to only hire the best for the job, he really appears to have either done a shitty job, or all he hires are yes men and those reacting against him were simply not that and he was either fooled or isn't as great as he likes to pretend when it comes to people who don't have to kow-tow to him.
But to the MAGA cult members, it will just be those "deep state monsters" going after him.

 

[Astro What]

Not a big fan of this network, but they do bring things out that make you go hmmm..

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[Astro What]

Ouch. But true. Like the public really needs to take Trumps words as being true?

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[Astro What]

Now isn't this interesting. Trumpty Dumpty yelling about elective/selective editing of an interview to make someone "look better/smarter".
And what turns up?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/24/media/fox-news-edit-trump-barbershop-interview/index.html

Pot, meet kettle.

EDIT:
Seems like XF is having an UNFURL issue with CNN articles.

 

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Trumpty Dumpty

Oh stop it! Gets me every time!
Why am I not surprised at him doing the thing he accuses others of? Sigh.

I've never had CNN links work. Here's what happens with your one when I test it on 2.2 and 2.3.

Since it works for most other sites, perhaps there's something funny about CNN's links?

 

[Astro What]

Just one more cognizant reflection on the BS that Trumpty Dumpty spews. Again, thanks to BTC for bringing facts and adulthood into the discsussion.

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In some way I am ashamed to admit it as a life-long voting Republican.. but in another I am not.
For the FIRST time in 40+ years of voting, I voted a straight Democratic ticket.
No, it wasn't because I agreed with them, but it was a refutation of the current Republican party.
In basic terms... my Republican party needs to be bitch slapped in a major degree and maybe it will finally come back to reality.

 

[Astro What]

Now Trumpty Dumpty is is claiming that there were 29,000 people around the McDonalds he did his photo op at and they had a hard time getting out.
Funny... photos show an empty parking lot and staged practice cars in the drive thru.
Yep... looks like 29,000 people to me in that parking lot.



And then in his one of his latest rallies in which he claimed that he turns right around and says that Kamala is a liar.
And yet his cult members refuse to believe the evidence and would rather believe what a known (and repeatedly proven so) liar says.

I don't know what his fixation on crowd sizes is.

 

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I can see 29000 people and then some there. Can't you? /s

 

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So, Trump's lock screen is a picture of... himself. Whoda thunk it? Such a huge narcissistic tell.

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Donald Trump's Phone Lock Screen Is Going Viral Because It's Exactly What Everyone Expected It To Be

"This alone would tell me everything I need to know."

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

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In some way I am ashamed to admit it as a life-long voting Republican.. but in another I am not.
For the FIRST time in 40+ years of voting, I voted a straight Democratic ticket.
No, it wasn't because I agreed with them, but it was a refutation of the current Republican party.
In basic terms... my Republican party needs to be bitch slapped in a major degree and maybe it will finally come back to reality.

I get where you're coming from and respect for seeing Trump for the threat that he is and hence gritting your teeth to vote Democrat.

Trumpty Dumpty* himself said that if he doesn't get in this time, he won't try again. Also, those lawsuits are finally gonna catch up with him and he'll hopefully, finally, end up in jail, so he'll be a busted flush for sure and the threat removed. Do you think you're likely to vote Republican after that, or perhaps wait to see what impression you have of them in 4 years?

*Oh dammit, you're getting me doing it now.

 

[Astro What]

Just for those that try to ignore it. Here he is letting it spill from his own pie hole. It is the MSN link below.

MSN

 

[live627]

I can see 29000 people and then some there. Can't you? /s

you guys forgot to check the other side of the street...

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