The Trump downfall thread

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Yeah, great, but it's all a bit too late now, isn't it? Unless the election is proved fraudulent and Harris is made president (fat chance) we're all screwed.
It ultimately will be a good thing, especially when the mid-terms come about.
I have a feeling that Trumpty Dumpty is going to quickly find out that even as President, the rule of law applies and he's not going to be able to do the things he thinks he is. That is like the Alien Enemies act that he has claimed he is going to use for his mass deportations. It was never written to cover what he wants to use it as and any legitimate court in the nation will slap it down. If they don't, then that will in itself cause repercussions that they will not appreciate.
 

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Well, you're more optimistic than me. We can only wait and see now.
 

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Yes, the second Trump term is indeed gonna be worse than the first, a helluva lot worse. It literally looks to analysts like Trump is deliberately assembling a government that will fall apart and put the country into chaos which will weaken it immeasurably. Now, who's that good for? Oh yes, that's right, Russia, China, Iran, all those awful totalitarian, dictorship states. Seriously, I can see the hand of Russia in all this and brexit. Yes, it looks to me like Trump and his cronies are actively working for Putin to bring down the West. Sounds nuts at first glance, but just look at what's happening. The outgoing government can still stop this from happening before Trump takes power, but they're not going to, so sleepwalking into it we go. :mad:

Watch this analyst describe what Trump is doing and see for yourself.

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Now, thinking about the above post and this article makes me wonder: could Biden have made a strategic move here to trigger a wider war with Russia and thus pronounce that he must stay in power for now, ie prevent Trump's inauguration? That dodgy election could then be investigated in the background for corruption and the result found to be fraudulent. What a power move if true. Dangerous too as Russia is no pushover.

It's just my hunch reading between the lines. What do others think?

 

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could Biden have made a strategic move here to trigger a wider war with Russia and thus pronounce that he must stay in power for now, ie prevent Trump's inauguration?
Nope, the Constitution is sound on that. There is NO way that a President in office can say "Sorry, this emergency voids any elections and I get to stay in power until it's over".
Elections were held during WW1 and WW2. It didn't stop the elections then and would not now.
 

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I hope you're right there, because Trump has thwarted the constitution already over Jan 6 as he should have been disqualified by amendment 14, section 3 and beaten those legal cases against him, too. This whole thread wouldn't have existed had that happened and we wouldn't be having this conversation now. He's now more powerful than ever and already subverting the bedrock of the government, so who knows what he could be capable of. These are dark days, I'm telling you. I hoped they'd never happen in my lifetime, but here they are.
 

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The wakeup call begins.

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Well, that's it, Trump's officially gotten away with his crimes. He's clearly above the law what with his tactics and the weak will and corruption of some of the key people who were supposed to hold him to account. He'll now never face justice for the insurrection and stealing those classified documents. This is what you can do when you have billions in the bank and the kind of wily, corrupt mind that Trump has. What a dark and depressing day this is. I can only hope now that old age and ill health takes him out sooner rather than later, but I wouldn't be surprised if he beats those odds, too.


This CNN article has an embedded video of a legal expert explaining how Trump is effectively above the law.


Here's BTC and Glenn Kirschner's take on this.

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Why can't Trump's trashy diet be his downfall? Would be frigging glorious.

 

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I'm so sick of Trump getting away with everything. Here, Glenn Kirschner on BTC's channel gives an expert legal analysis of how Trump's federal cases* are going to be snuffed out. Basically, it doesn't matter which way the prosecution in the form of Jack Smith turns, it's checkmate against him due to the special powers that the presidency grants Trump, which he's of course abusing to the full. 😠

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*Jan 6 insurrection and classified documents cases.
 

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Zing.... but BTC is so right. His cult members will never realize what is actually going on because they have a limited place they get their "news".
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You know America is in a really bad place when Putin praises Trump, his useful idiot. It's really quite nauseating. 🤢

Russian President Vladimir Putin has heaped praised on Donald Trump and suggested the incoming administration will “find a solution” to end Russia’s war in Ukraine.

“As far as I can imagine, the newly elected president is an intelligent and already quite experienced person. I think he will find a solution,” Putin said on Thursday.

 

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More than nauseating, this is actually very frightening. Reading the articles above, only enforces my fear and feelings of foreboding.
This Trump crap is very very bad news, not only for America, but for the whole of the free world. Him going to bed with Putin is grim.
 

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America is sleepwaking towards its own destruction and the Dems are simply rolling over and allowing it. This is an unfolding disaster and no one with influence is doing anything about it. WTF?!! This is Biden's and Harris's biggest failure by far.

Nothing illustrates this more than a Russian TV host gleefully boasting about this:

“What an excellent team is coming along with Trump!" Solovyov said on his show Sunday, according to Davis' report. "Not with respect to Ukraine, but as far as everything else goes. If they are allowed to get in, they will quickly dismantle America, brick by brick. They are so great!”

 

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They can only do so much damage in 2 years... and when it becomes readily apparent what is going on there are mechanisms in place that can have his appointees removed, even over Trumps protests before then.
It's just like those labor unions that supported Trump. Now with some of his proposed actions they a whining and asking themselves how they got so suckered in. There will reach a point where those middle of the road Trump voters will realize that they have been lied to and raise a ruckus, and those up for re-election in the mid-terms will ignore them at their own peril.
 

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Ahh.... karma.
Now even the 2000 Mules director is saying (in more words) that the basis of his movie was most likely based on BS.
Remember, this is one of the "pillars" that MAGA lived their beliefs based upon.

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