The Trump downfall thread

[Astro What]

Yeah, great, but it's all a bit too late now, isn't it? Unless the election is proved fraudulent and Harris is made president (fat chance) we're all screwed.

It ultimately will be a good thing, especially when the mid-terms come about.
I have a feeling that Trumpty Dumpty is going to quickly find out that even as President, the rule of law applies and he's not going to be able to do the things he thinks he is. That is like the Alien Enemies act that he has claimed he is going to use for his mass deportations. It was never written to cover what he wants to use it as and any legitimate court in the nation will slap it down. If they don't, then that will in itself cause repercussions that they will not appreciate.

 

[Retro]

Well, you're more optimistic than me. We can only wait and see now.

 

[Retro]

Yes, the second Trump term is indeed gonna be worse than the first, a helluva lot worse. It literally looks to analysts like Trump is deliberately assembling a government that will fall apart and put the country into chaos which will weaken it immeasurably. Now, who's that good for? Oh yes, that's right, Russia, China, Iran, all those awful totalitarian, dictorship states. Seriously, I can see the hand of Russia in all this and brexit. Yes, it looks to me like Trump and his cronies are actively working for Putin to bring down the West. Sounds nuts at first glance, but just look at what's happening. The outgoing government can still stop this from happening before Trump takes power, but they're not going to, so sleepwalking into it we go.

Watch this analyst describe what Trump is doing and see for yourself.

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Authoritarianism Expert Delivers Chilling Assessment On Trump Cabinet Picks

It's not “just that these people are not qualified enough" or even "totally unqualified," warned Timothy Snyder, who said their selection aims to do one thing.

uk.yahoo.com

 

[Retro]

Now, thinking about the above post and this article makes me wonder: could Biden have made a strategic move here to trigger a wider war with Russia and thus pronounce that he must stay in power for now, ie prevent Trump's inauguration? That dodgy election could then be investigated in the background for corruption and the result found to be fraudulent. What a power move if true. Dangerous too as Russia is no pushover.

It's just my hunch reading between the lines. What do others think?

Biden lifts ban on Ukraine using US weapons to strike deeper into Russia

Officials have suggested permission for wider use could be response to North Koreans joining war on Putin’s side

www.theguardian.com

 

[Astro What]

could Biden have made a strategic move here to trigger a wider war with Russia and thus pronounce that he must stay in power for now, ie prevent Trump's inauguration?

Nope, the Constitution is sound on that. There is NO way that a President in office can say "Sorry, this emergency voids any elections and I get to stay in power until it's over".
Elections were held during WW1 and WW2. It didn't stop the elections then and would not now.

 

[Retro]

I hope you're right there, because Trump has thwarted the constitution already over Jan 6 as he should have been disqualified by amendment 14, section 3 and beaten those legal cases against him, too. This whole thread wouldn't have existed had that happened and we wouldn't be having this conversation now. He's now more powerful than ever and already subverting the bedrock of the government, so who knows what he could be capable of. These are dark days, I'm telling you. I hoped they'd never happen in my lifetime, but here they are.

 

[Astro What]

The wakeup call begins.

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[Retro]

Well, that's it, Trump's officially gotten away with his crimes. He's clearly above the law what with his tactics and the weak will and corruption of some of the key people who were supposed to hold him to account. He'll now never face justice for the insurrection and stealing those classified documents. This is what you can do when you have billions in the bank and the kind of wily, corrupt mind that Trump has. What a dark and depressing day this is. I can only hope now that old age and ill health takes him out sooner rather than later, but I wouldn't be surprised if he beats those odds, too.

Judge dismisses Jack Smith's election case against Trump

The case was dismissed "without prejudice", meaning charges could be refiled when Trump leaves office.

www.bbc.co.uk

This CNN article has an embedded video of a legal expert explaining how Trump is effectively above the law.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/25/politics/trump-special-counsel-jack-smith

Here's BTC and Glenn Kirschner's take on this.

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[Retro]

Why can't Trump's trashy diet be his downfall? Would be frigging glorious.

I ate like Trump for a week. I don’t understand how the man is still alive

It was a picture that revealed more than just Donald Trump’s inner circle. Following the jubilation of the US election, the grinning president-elect was pictured on board Trump Force One tucking into a McDonald’s with Elon Musk and Robert F Kennedy Jr. Donald Trump Jr, seated to his right, would...

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[Retro]

I'm so sick of Trump getting away with everything. Here, Glenn Kirschner on BTC's channel gives an expert legal analysis of how Trump's federal cases* are going to be snuffed out. Basically, it doesn't matter which way the prosecution in the form of Jack Smith turns, it's checkmate against him due to the special powers that the presidency grants Trump, which he's of course abusing to the full.

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*Jan 6 insurrection and classified documents cases.

 

[Retro]

Here's the written version of Glenn's analysis in the previous post. The situation is killing him too, or crushing him, as he put it.

Opinion | Is there any hope for accountability of Trump in the future?

This is what happens when the Supreme Court gives a stamp of approval for Trump’s quasi-royal rule.

www.msnbc.com

 

[Astro What]

Zing.... but BTC is so right. His cult members will never realize what is actually going on because they have a limited place they get their "news".

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[Retro]

You know America is in a really bad place when Putin praises Trump, his useful idiot. It's really quite nauseating.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has heaped praised on Donald Trump and suggested the incoming administration will “find a solution” to end Russia’s war in Ukraine.

“As far as I can imagine, the newly elected president is an intelligent and already quite experienced person. I think he will find a solution,” Putin said on Thursday.

Putin full of praise for ‘intelligent and experienced’ Trump after election victory

Trump has repeatedly promised to end Russia’s war in Ukraine within 24 hours

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[Mars]

More than nauseating, this is actually very frightening. Reading the articles above, only enforces my fear and feelings of foreboding.
This Trump crap is very very bad news, not only for America, but for the whole of the free world. Him going to bed with Putin is grim.

 

[Ian]

Devil's Advocate, what would be a better alternative?

 

[Retro]

Sorry, alternative to what? Not clear.

 

[Retro]

America is sleepwaking towards its own destruction and the Dems are simply rolling over and allowing it. This is an unfolding disaster and no one with influence is doing anything about it. WTF?!! This is Biden's and Harris's biggest failure by far.

Nothing illustrates this more than a Russian TV host gleefully boasting about this:

“What an excellent team is coming along with Trump!" Solovyov said on his show Sunday, according to Davis' report. "Not with respect to Ukraine, but as far as everything else goes. If they are allowed to get in, they will quickly dismantle America, brick by brick. They are so great!”

Russian TV host gleefully claims Trump's Cabinet will 'dismantle' America, report says

Several Russian state TV figures have praised Donald Trump's Cabinet picks, according to Daily Beast columnist and Russian media monitor Julia Davis.

www.msnbc.com

 

[Astro What]

They can only do so much damage in 2 years... and when it becomes readily apparent what is going on there are mechanisms in place that can have his appointees removed, even over Trumps protests before then.
It's just like those labor unions that supported Trump. Now with some of his proposed actions they a whining and asking themselves how they got so suckered in. There will reach a point where those middle of the road Trump voters will realize that they have been lied to and raise a ruckus, and those up for re-election in the mid-terms will ignore them at their own peril.

 

[Astro What]

Ahh.... karma.
Now even the 2000 Mules director is saying (in more words) that the basis of his movie was most likely based on BS.
Remember, this is one of the "pillars" that MAGA lived their beliefs based upon.

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[Retro]

Finally, Trump intends to do something that I actually agree with. However, there's a lot of resistance to this from his own party, so if he succeeds remains to be seen.

We've had it in the UK for decades and it's high time it was scrapped, but it's not even a debate item in parliament, let alone on the cards, so it will probably not happen anytime soon, if ever.

Donald Trump has pledged to scrap “inconvenient” daylight saving time (DST) when he enters the White House next month.

The president-elect described the practice of adjusting the clocks twice a year, which was introduced in the US more than a century ago, as “very costly to our nation”.

However, the move will require congressional approval, and may be opposed by some of Mr Trump’s closest allies who have previously argued in favour of instituting DST all year.

Donald Trump promises to scrap ‘inconvenient’ daylight saving time

Donald Trump has pledged to scrap “inconvenient” daylight saving time (DST) when he enters the White House next month.

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