The Trump thread

[Retro]

Hangonaminute, I'm all for criticising Trump when he does something bad, which is a lot, but how come he approved support on 5th April, yet an article that came out on the 25th said he didn't?

Note that the approval was announced on the Arkansas official website too, so one can't say it's a lie.

This is the original HuffPost article, not the Yahoo republish from the next day where you can see that it's not been altered.

A Red State Begged Trump For Help. He Said No — And Now They’re Screwed.

Trump-supporting Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders is stuck in a pretty awkward position.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

Nice correction there, @Geffers. I don't like misinformation from either side.

 

[Astro What]

Caring, sharing Trump has just said no to disaster relief for Arkansas after tornados did millions in storm damage. It's a red state too and he wants to dismantle FEMA. People are really gonna love that.

Really I don't have a big issue with that. The states should be budgeting themselves for stuff like this, but they tend to want to put their tax monies towards special interest stuff that serves few but keeps their locals happy.
Arkansas damage was estimated at $8.8 MILLION.
The 2024 fires in California did around $250 BILLION in damages and economic loss (and remember Trump this year did not want to help them, rather ordering the dumping of water in a publicity stunt that was needed for crops for this summer since we have drought conditions in that area).
Hurricane Helene (2024) did about $30 BILLION in damage and economic loss.
Hurricane Katrina in 2005 did about $200 BILLION in damages and loss.

Honestly, they should have that easily in surplus in the Arkansas state budget for a "rainy day" fund.
Texas has a law in effect that requires 10% of the previous biennium's general revenue be set aside in the "rainy day" fund. It's forecast to be $28.1 BILLION for 2025. If your state has a tendency to spend all it's income and not set any aside, it's ridiculous to expect the federal government to come bail you out.

 

[Retro]

I see where you're coming from, but it's a bit of a grey area in my opinion as the devil's in the details.

As it is, Trump did actually authorise support for Arkansas. Did you see my post immediately above yours?

 

[Astro What]

I see where you're coming from, but it's a bit of a grey area in my opinion as the devil's in the details.

As it is, Trump did actually authorise support for Arkansas. Did you see my post immediately above yours?

I already knew that he had.... my comment was on the original decision not to. That, to me, was the correct one. The only reason he changed his mind was it's a red state and with his current BS going on it would have been just one more nail in the GOP coffin.

 

[Astro What]

And this is why Trump and his sycophants were so upset about the tariff increases being listed on Amazon. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that something you put in your cart less than a week ago jumping this much is due to outside influences.



I honestly wish I had gone ahead and purchased the 2 of them I was thinking about grabbing as give-aways for the site.

 

[Retro]

I already knew that he had.... my comment was on the original decision not to. That, to me, was the correct one. The only reason he changed his mind was it's a red state and with his current BS going on it would have been just one more nail in the GOP coffin.

It's funny you know: you've had to turn your back on the GOP because of their Trump infection corrupting them so badly, while there's a certain parallel for me with the Labour party. Those corrupt Tories who foisted brexit on us and did so many other bad things had to be voted out and I'm still glad they were. However, this Labour under Starmer are taking Tory cruelty to new heights with the welfare cuts to people in genuine need such as the disabled and other similar things that they're doing, all under the guise of saving money for their alleged £22b black hole that they claim to have inherited. It's so bad, that their supporters are leaving them in droves and we now have the threat of Reform, lead by the way worse Nigel Farage look like they might win the by-elections going on now and perhaps even end up in power at the next General Election. Farage is the British Trump, but much, much, savvier and more dangerous, so it would be an absolute disaster if he got in. Heck, I've been thinking of starting a thread called The Farage Threat, but I don't really want him front and centre on my forum, tbh. If someone else wanted to start a thread on him, I'd be ok with it, though.

And this is why...

Wow, that's a huge price increase, a dealbreaking one in many cases. Well, let's hope there's a course correction sooner rather than later to restore sanity to America.

 

[Astro What]

Wow, that's a huge price increase, a dealbreaking one in many cases. Well, let's hope there's a course correction sooner rather than later to restore sanity to America.

Enough that I could have purchased 3 instead of the only 2 I can now for around the same price. So yes, a drastic price increase, well over 1/2 the original cost.

 

[Astro What]

We need more politicians like this.

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[live627]

And this is why Trump and his sycophants were so upset about the tariff increases being listed on Amazon. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that something you put in your cart less than a week ago jumping this much is due to outside influences.

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The frustrating aspect for me about the messaging on the tariffs is: why so coy? Why say — or "let it slip" — that there will be short-term pain, only to later deny having said that? Why oppose Amazon's plan to show the tariff similar to a sales tax? I see this as honesty and transparency, not hostility. Perhaps it's because the Dems supported it. And Trump says there's no recession looming… yeah, sure — just like the "safe and effective", I mean, the "strong and resilient" economy we've had over the past three years.

And inflation is roaring back, just like I predicted when the Fed cut rates in December 2024. So why the dog-and-pony show insisting that rates are too high? Why is the ECB suddenly the example to follow? These central banksters seem hell-bent on destroying the dollar, possibly bringing the end goal of the tariffs into question.

So Trump says we'll have two dolls to play with instead of thirty. What good will two dolls be if the price of food goes up by 30% in six months at my local Aldi? Their cheese and yogurt are now getting too expensive.

End of transmission.

 

[Retro]

@live627 I think you're finally starting to see through Trump's lies like myself, @Astro What and others on here have for the longest time and have been exposing on here. Of course, the mainstream media and independents have helped enormously, to give them their due as we couldn't have done it without them. Do you finally realise the nightmare that you've voted into power? Just think how much safer, more prosperous and nicer America and the world would now be if Kamala had been voted into power instead (I still think it was rigged and she actually won by a slim margin). It's ok, no animosity here, we welcome you to our side - and we still welcome you even if you're still firmly on the Trump side.

Here's hoping this disaster is corrected sooner rather than later by removing Trump one way or the other.

 

[Retro]

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You're not kidding! Straight talking and with a wicked sense of humour. His colleague on the right cracked up quite a few times there.

I wish more politicians were like him.

 

[Retro]

Let's help to push him out of power! He's the worst American president by a country mile.

Opinion - Trump is destroying his own presidency — let’s finish the job

How will we use the next 100 days and the next 1,000 days to move our country in a better direction?

uk.yahoo.com

 

[live627]

@live627 I think you're finally starting to see through Trump's lies

Trump lies a lot and always has—just like every other politician. This includes the front-runners on the other side. The only difference with Trump versus other presidents in my lifetime is that he’s actually executing on his campaign promises—a rare thing.

The main reason for my vote was the TEAM—Kennedy (MAHA), Musk (DOGE, much wow), and Gabbard (Director of National Intelligence), along with the heads of ICE and the FDA.

 

[Mars]

Let's help to push him out of power! He's the worst American president by a country mile.

Opinion - Trump is destroying his own presidency — let’s finish the job

How will we use the next 100 days and the next 1,000 days to move our country in a better direction?

uk.yahoo.com

Nothing better then self-destruction, if you want to wipe yourself off the face of the earth. It looks like Trumpy is searching for this 'self-destruct' button; hope he finds it soon. Anyway, good to see that people start to see this derelict for what he is: a lying scumbag.

 

[Retro]

Trump lies a lot and always has—just like every other politician. This includes the front-runners on the other side. The only difference with Trump versus other presidents in my lifetime is that he’s actually executing on his campaign promises—a rare thing.

The main reason for my vote was the TEAM—Kennedy (MAHA), Musk (DOGE, much wow), and Gabbard (Director of National Intelligence), along with the heads of ICE and the FDA.

No, Trump's lies are on another level entirely, to the point that one can't believe anything that he says, except the bad stuff he wants to do, like being a dictator, staying for a third term, tariffs (that's come to pass in volume) and more.

Executing on a promise on how he'll do something bad, is not something to be admired, eg tariffs. For example, if someone promised to stick a knife into you if you walked near their house again and then did it, you wouldn't admire them for it? No, you'd call the police if you weren't dead yet.

 

[live627]

Perhaps a more fitting comparison might be a toll booth on a bridge or highway.

• Up-front, per-use charge
  Every car that wants to cross pays a fixed fee at the booth. This isn’t optional for drivers who need to use that route—just like importers (and ultimately consumers) can’t avoid a tariff if they want the good.
• Revenue for upkeep (or other uses)
  The money collected funds bridge maintenance, road repairs, or broader transportation budgets. Likewise, tariff revenue goes into government coffers, which can be spent on anything from infrastructure to social programs.
• Discourages “traffic” (imports) you want to limit
  High tolls can push drivers to take alternative routes or travel less often. Similarly, higher tariffs make foreign products more expensive, reducing their consumption in favor of domestic goods.

(Bullet points generated by ChatGPT)

 

[Retro]

No, that's a little too sanitized. The stuff he does is extreme, so the knife analogy is more appropriate.

Again, his lies are on another level to what "normal" politicians do and are often easily debunked. You have to concede this one as it's a fact that's been proven over and over. He often contradicts himself, too.

 

[live627]

After reading that message five times, I st ill can't make heads nor tails of it. Concede what?

 

[Astro What]

Oh lord...... Trump and his idiot sycophants claims that they have deals in the making and that "everyone is kissing his ass"... and the ONLY deal that he can announce is a possible one with the UK... which honestly is down the ladder in who we trade with. Currently we sell MORE to Canada (who Trump is butt-hurt over and wants to make another US state) and then trade China, which provides most of our products that the middle class can actually afford to buy.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/07/business/trade-deal-trump

But what can you say... we have Donny 2 Dolls at the helm.

 

[Astro What]

After reading that message five times, I st ill can't make heads nor tails of it. Concede what?

That Trump is a consummate liar that has a particular aversion to telling the truth?
As @Retro commented.. it has been shown time and time and time and time (ad nauseam) that Trump and facts based upon evidence have an aversion to each other.

 

[Retro]

@live627 what AW explained about what I'm saying. You have to concede that as it's the simple truth.

 

[live627]

So all you guys want to do is squawk endlessly on "orange man bad" and are trying to corner with this notion that this current president lies more frequently than past presidents.

Which president lies more: Bush, Obama, Biden, or Trump? Trick question; they all lie so often that it's nearly impossible to keep track. Difference with Trump is that he is masterful at selling himself and his ideas and is able to easily play a crowd and hype them up. Obama has the same skill to a lessser extent.

 

[Retro]

Oh dear live, I want whatever koolaid you're drinking.

 

[live627]

Black tea.

 

[Hitcore]

Which president lies more: Bush, Obama, Biden, or Trump? Trick question; they all lie so often that it's nearly impossible to keep track. Difference with Trump is that he is masterful at selling himself and his ideas and is able to easily play a crowd and hype them up.

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