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How about I like none of them muppets.

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So all you guys want to do is squawk endlessly on "orange man bad" and are trying to corner with this notion that this current president lies more frequently than past presidents.
This fact has been WELL documented time and time again. He DOES lie more often. In fact, in his first term it was documented that he made over 30,000 false or misleading statements. And he's well on his way to exceeding that currently.
I should note... in several of his spiels he would repeat the same false/misleading claim multiple times.... but they were only documented as being one statement event though it may have been said 5 times.
If you want the year by year average:
Trump averaged about six claims a day in his first year as president, 16 claims day in his second year, 22 claims day in his third year — and 39 claims a day in his final year.
Trump made around 300 claims he got the largest tax cut in history passed. Again, another falsehood. The one he got passed was the eight largest.
And how could we forget his statements about how Mexico was going to pay for his "great wall of the US".
Now, since we are in bad economic times under his current administration, around 2500 of his claims in the first term were about hime being creating the greatest economy in US history, which was demonstrably false. Dwight D. Eisenhower, Lyndon B. Johnson and even Bill Clinton had better economies under their Presidencies. And guess what hurt Trumps economy in his first term.
If you said "trade wars"... you win a kewpie doll (made in China).
I could go on and on and on documenting the REPEATED false/misleading statements he was constantly spewing.

To give you some insight in what he lied about:
Roughly 25 percent exaggerated about his accomplishments, and 15 percent misled about his policies. Another 15 percent dissembled about the Russia investigation or the probe into the Ukraine phone call. Roughly 10 percent each were fibs made out of whole cloth, attacks on people he considered foes, falsehoods about the coronavirus, phony claims about the election, or false statements about Biden and his proposals.

Granted... ALL politicians lie. It is simply fact that Trump takes it to the extreme.
 

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If you ever wonder how I view things, just think of George Carlin. There's like a 99% chance my thoughts align perfectly with his. I'm not even consciously mimicking him or anything, it just so happens that I feel a certain way about something, then watch George, and whaddayaknow, the man says it pretty much how I see it.

I'm not éénkennig. As far as I am aware there isn't a single word in English that captures the meaning of it. It means that I am open to different kinds of people and things, that I am not exclusive in who I get along with. I have friends from all quadrants of the political spectrum. The funny thing is that my leftie friends take me for a right winger. And my rightie friends take me for a left winger. George Carlin faced the same. I'm freaking none of those things, and neither was he, also not even a centrist.

I see all those positions as part of the same managed spectrum designed to keep people arguing while real power remains unaccountable. I've lost faith in the electoral system and mainstream narratives because I believe they serve elite interests, not the public. My view isn't about apathy, it's about recognizing the limits of the system and rejecting the illusion of choice.

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And yes, I am blackpilled. Once you see through things, there is no turning back. We all get played. Most are not able or willing to see this, and it feels very lonely quite frankly.
 

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This MAGA supporter is so dumb that the presenter called him a "MAGA deplorable" and many other insults. I wish they'd be allowed to speak to their callers like that in the UK, but OFCOM would shut them down. I totally get the presenter's exasperation with him.

This shows just how brainwashed by the MAGA cult these fools are. I don't know how one breaks the spell when they're in this deep. Maybe drugs and electroshock therapy or something.

It's millions of people like him that enabled Trump to get into power for a second time. All Trump / Putin had to then do was just push it over the line in the ways described earlier in this thread.

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Why am I not surprised at this?

 

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Finally, Ukraine is allowed to strike as deep into Russia as it wants and really bring the fight to Russia. What's especially significant about this is that America is allowing it too and that means Trump, finally doing something right by Ukraine. I really thought he'd throw Ukraine wholesale under the bus when he got back into power, but it doesn't seem that way, although he's not be exactly supportive, either.

The German chancellor has said that Germany, along with Ukraine’s other main western supporters, will remove range restrictions on weapons delivered to Kyiv for the first time, to enable it to defend itself against Russia.

Friedrich Merz said Germany, Britain, France and the US had lifted the restrictions to enable Ukraine to be better able to hit military targets on Russian territory.

“There are no longer any range restrictions on weapons delivered to Ukraine – neither by the British, nor by the French, nor by us, nor by the Americans,” he said on Monday, following Russia’s largest drone attack on Ukraine of the war to date.

“This means that Ukraine can now defend itself, for example, by attacking military positions in Russia … with very few exceptions, it didn’t do that until recently. It can now do that.”

In response, the Kremlin described the decision as “dangerous”, saying it would be detrimental to reaching any sort of peace agreement. “If these decisions have indeed been made, they are completely at odds with our aspirations for a political settlement,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said.

 

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I love the way that this judge totally disrespects Trump by slapping down his dumb executive orders and parodying Trump's writing style while he's at it! :ROFLMAO:

A certain judge isn’t going to stand for this type of nonsense anymore!!!!!!!!!

One of President Donald Trump’s executive orders, targeting law firms he doesn’t like for incredibly petty reasons, was struck down Tuesday by Richard Leon, a U.S. District Judge for the District of Columbia.

In addition to calling Trump’s order “unconstitutional,” Leon’s 73-page opinion utilized a specific type of punctuation that Trump frequently uses himself: a crap-load of exclamation points.

Leon’s opinion included a total of 26 exclamation marks (plus one more in a quotation of a comment by Trump). It’s rare to see a judge make such use of the exclamation mark, an expression of strong emotion that legal writing experts discourage. Perhaps Leon’s usage was an attempt to communicate with Trump in a way the president could actually understand.

 

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Nice one. About time this asshole gets his bloody 'executive orders' slammed.
Oh and I liked the judge's subtle mockery, by the proliferation of exclamation marks in his reply. Lovely stuff!
 

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Folks here in the US... you want a real wake-up call? Then here is a major one.


From the head idiot in chief and his tiny sycophants.

Personally... I don't visit many National parks as we have a wealth of State Parks that offer more than I need here in Texas. But the sad thing is... it appears that if many of those nationally supported protected areas don't fly the flag "National Park" or give homage to the government directly their may be under attack.

And if you want to place it anywhere else than at Trumps feet.. I give you this direct quote from that document:
This letter provides President Trump's recommendations on discretionary funding levelsfor fiscal year (FY) 2026.

Foks... if you think Trump is not trying to kill our society... you may need to spend more time reading what his cult members are pushing and the REAL impact of them and not the smoke they are blowing up your arse.
 

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Here's hoping the impeachment efforts against Trump and Vance gains traction and finally starts getting reported in the news. This movement to get rid of this illegal administration really needs to be bigger and it might yet happen.

Did you know that Jessica Denson worked in the Trump admin the first time he was in power and actually won a bullying lawsuit against them? Talk about an uphill climb, but she somehow did it. It was about staff being forced to sign illegal NDAs which prohibited staff from criticising Trump and other things, which gives me some confidence that she might actually pull off this impeachment movement against Trump and Vance this time around.

If you don't yet subscribe to her channel, I strongly recommend that you do and perhaps join the movement, if you can and help to make it stronger and more effective. @Astro What would you consider joining this movement?

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They won't do anything until after the mid-terms and they can see if the Democrats gain control (and it will have to be substantial control) of both houses.
So, Trump and his merry band if idiots will continue to be Trump and his merry band of idiots, violation the Constitution and various laws right and left and then hopefully be called to task on it.
Luckily the Courts are starting to intercede more.
There have been several MAGA faithful in office trying to point out how many more federal court nation-wide injunctions have been issued under Trumps short time in office compared to history of other Presidents.
Derp.. yep... that's because Trump and his merry band of idiots are violation the law, the Constitution and civil rights left and right like no other President has in history.
 

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I'd give you a Like and a Sad if possible, but I think a Sad wins out here because this situation is so depressing.

I so dearly hope that the system eventually corrects itself, I really do.
 

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It's been known his name has been in them. Just so far no proven association with the younger crowd.
 

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It's been known his name has been in them. Just so far no proven association with the younger crowd.
If there was some evidence that he had sex with underaged girls, then it (might) finally be enough to break that cult MAGA spell that he's created. Problem is he's the president now, so it's really tough to get rid of him. Impeachment and conviction? Yeah maybe as a long shot and it's never succeeded with any president before (remember those two failed attempts on him?) but if he simply croaked it due to Father Time that would be the most certain way. No way to come back from that, no third term, lol.
 

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If there was some evidence that he had sex with underaged girls, then it (might) finally be enough to break that cult MAGA spell that he's created.
Yeah but even if that's so, the consequences will be more complicated than that. Allegedly the list is extensive, and there's bound to be people from both political colors on it. High profile ones, perhaps.

To me it seems that THAT is the very reason why the list hasn't been made public. Not in this administration, and not in the previous administraton. Probably not in the next administration either.

See of it as nuclear weaponry. Sure, country X could go full armageddon on country Y. But that only means that the other country would get annihilated as well. This is why no full scale nuclear war has occurred (yet).
 

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Yes, there are people from the main Republican and Democratic sides with something to lose, along with many miscellanous people, eg facilitators, who helped Epstein and his cronies carry out his illegal activities. Still, you never know, the truth will out as the saying goes, so the general public and justice might just get lucky one day. I wouldn't hold my breath for it, though.
 

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along with many miscellanous people, eg facilitators

...and celebrities. Some of them have been getting into legal trouble already, such as P. Diddy, who is still in custody and awaiting trial for sex trafficking and a bunch of rapey stuff. More or less the same can be said for R. Kelly, Bill Cosby, and Harvey Weinstein. Their crimes all fit in the Epsteiny sphere of things. The celebrity world would take a huge PR dent if it turns out that there are dozens more of these evil shites. Who wants to watch a movie when half the cast got their way with a bunch of 12 year olds, right?

These are all terrible things to talk about, and note that I am not naming anyone who hasn't been in legal trouble already. We don't know for certain who are on the list. But what we do know is that politicians, celebrities, and other well known people (maybe CEOs) will go through great lenghts to not let the list go public. Even people who know that they aren't on the list but know people who are will be pretty hush-hush about it, because they all are well aware of what I am describing here: if dozens of high profile people get exposed and trialed, that would be very, very bad for business.
 

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Somebody who was close to Trump also thinks Putin has something on him. It's really weird how Trump constantly sucks up to him and his "defiant" words against Putin are only for show.

Scaramucci dismissed the idea that Trump is soft on Putin because he admires authoritarian leaders, saying Trump only cares about himself.

“It’s bulls--t,” he said. “Trump doesn’t love authoritarians. He loves himself, OK? And he would not be kowtowing to Putin, sitting in the biggest economy with the biggest military.”

 

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Somebody who was close to Trump also thinks Putin has something on him. It's really weird how Trump constantly sucks up to him and his "defiant" words against Putin are only for show.



Really, I just thought of Trump as some unstable clown in his old age! He initially claimed support for Russia, blaming the war on Ukraine. Then he turned his back on Russia…

This pattern is consistent with his behaviour with respect to the tariffs, driving uncertainty in the stock market and worldwide economy
 

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Really, I just thought of Trump as some unstable clown in his old age!
If only. Unfortunately, while he's unhinged alright, he's also dangerous af and has managed to use his wealth and corrupt contacts to get out of the various serious crimes he's commited and actually, unthinkably, become president again.

Did you see the humiliating attack that he and Vance made on Zelensky when he visited the White House to try and get some support for Ukraine? That was shocking, but not unexpected as he's clearly in Putin's pocket.
 

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If only. Unfortunately, while he's unhinged alright, he's also dangerous af and has managed to use his wealth and corrupt contacts to get out of the various serious crimes he's commited and actually, unthinkably, become president again.

Did you see the humiliating attack that he and Vance made on Zelensky when he visited the White House to try and get some support for Ukraine? That was shocking, but not unexpected as he's clearly in Putin's pocket.
Why did Trump insult Zelensky when trying to curry support for Ukraine? Makes no sense!!!!!!!!!

And yes of course he used that “dither and delay” tactic to ensure he’s above the law!!!
 
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