The Brexit Thread

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Another "benefit" of brexit.

German punk band ‘humiliated’ after being refused UK entry due to post-Brexit rules

Trigger Cut from Stuttgart were due to play seven venues in Britain but were turned away at Calais

www.theguardian.com

 

[Crims]

Another "benefit" of brexit.

German punk band ‘humiliated’ after being refused UK entry due to post-Brexit rules

Trigger Cut from Stuttgart were due to play seven venues in Britain but were turned away at Calais

www.theguardian.com

This highlights a bigger issue. The culture of Britain has been regressive since Brexit and definitely needs to include room for growth... including bands... and locally made media.

 

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Well yeah, this country has been running out of kilter since brexit in lots of different ways and also the overall damage that the tories are doing to it.

 

[Crims]

Well yeah, this country has been running out of kilter since brexit in lots of different ways and also the overall damage that the tories are doing to it.

It's not like a given lol

 

[Retro]

Sorry, I don't know what you mean. What's not a given?

 

[Crims]

Sorry, I don't know what you mean. What's not a given?

The government runs the country into the ground Brexit or no. Brexit included though.

 

[Retro]

Yeah, until Labour come in, we're screwed unfortunately. This shower is so corrupt.

 

[Mars]

Yeah, until Labour come in, we're screwed unfortunately. This shower is so corrupt.

Labour is not the answer to what ails Britain, nor is any other party.
The enormous damage done by Brexit is being felt all over, like a vice, like a bloody garrote it tightens its grip around the country's throat.
The only thing that will rescue this country is the abolition of Brexit and re-entry into the EU, but no party even goes there. They all take brexit as here to stay forever.

I cannot sing the praises of the Labour party, as they sit on their backside and do nothing to reverse the looming horrors of ULEZ. In the latest magazine issued by our Labour council, they sing the praises of ULEZ, glibly suggesting to people to leave their cars at home, and walk to work instead. Too far? take the bus!
Screw them. (sorry, couldn't help it).

 

[Crims]

I cannot sing the praises of the Labour party, as they sit on their backside and do nothing to reverse the looming horrors of ULEZ. In the latest magazine issued by our Labour council, they sing the praises of ULEZ, glibly suggesting to people to leave their cars at home, and walk to work instead. Too far? take the bus!
Screw them. (sorry, couldn't help it).

I have the same view as you regarding this, neither side of the government interest is with me. The assurance of the elite has been galling and surprises me more.

 

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Labour is not the answer to what ails Britain, nor is any other party.
The enormous damage done by Brexit is being felt all over, like a vice, like a bloody garrote it tightens its grip around the country's throat.
The only thing that will rescue this country is the abolition of Brexit and re-entry into the EU, but no party even goes there. They all take brexit as here to stay forever.

I cannot sing the praises of the Labour party, as they sit on their backside and do nothing to reverse the looming horrors of ULEZ. In the latest magazine issued by our Labour council, they sing the praises of ULEZ, glibly suggesting to people to leave their cars at home, and walk to work instead. Too far? take the bus!
Screw them. (sorry, couldn't help it).

There's no good option unfortunately. However, allowing the Russian-backed* tories to stay in power is the worst mistake that one can make, so they absolutely must be voted out at the next GE. And they will unless Starmer screws up with idiotic election campaign attack ads against the tories that everyone's against and alienates voters. Note that while the information in that ad may be true (I don't know if it is, but likely is) it's failing at the core function of turning voters off the tories and onto Labour. It therefore should be pulled, not defended.

The fact remains that as long as the tories remain in power, we will never rejoin the EU as this whole thing came from them, along with pressure from Nigel Fartage, someone whom I respect so much, I can't even spell his name right.

It gets me too how everyone with influence continues to pander to brexshit like it's some kind of untouchable holy presence. However, I saw a video a while back from A Different Bias that explained that no party can get back in at the moment on a policy of straight up rejoining the EU, because while the country is indeed turning against brexit, infuriatingly, it's still not the sea-change of voters turning against it and wanting to get back in, required for them to do so and hence they'd likely lose the GE. I still think that these parties could do more, but that's the gist of it. I wish there was some easy way to find that video among his sea of videos on that YouTube channel so you could see for yourself what he said. He explained it very thoroughly from various different angles.

Here's a general link to the channel if you wanna check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/@ADifferentBias/videos

And yeah, that whole ULEZ thing is pretty bent too. Thankfully, the mayor is getting sued over it as you can see below. The hearing is due in July and if they win, it will stop the expansion. Here's hoping.

Five councils launch legal challenge to dispute Sadiq Khan's ULEZ expansion

Four London councils and one Surrey council have launched a legal challenge into the decision to expand the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) to cover the entire capital city.

www.lbc.co.uk

Sadiq Khan once more proving that the ULEZ is all about air quality and nothing to do with scamming motorists out of thousands...

EU motorist fined almost £11,000 after falling foul of London Ulez rule

French hire car met emissions standard but had not been registered with TfL, resulting in penalty notices

www.theguardian.com

*Remember that Russia document that was supposed to be published years ago showing the connection between the tories and Russian donor money? It's still suppressed to this day oddly enough. The Good Law Project are a worthy legal outfit exposing such corruption. Read more about this here:

Revealed: The Tories are still receiving funds from Russia-linked donors | Good Law Project

A year on since Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, we can reveal that the Conservative Party is still receiving large donations from individuals and companies with links to Russia.

goodlawproject.org

 

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Brexit continues to harm the country. This example is especially apt, because the ARM CPU was designed by British company Acorn and first released in 1988 for its groundbreaking Archimedes line of computers of which I had one. Truly amazing for its time and I remember it fondly.

Brexit “idiocy” is partly to blame for Arm’s decision to choose New York over London for its stock market listing, but a secondary listing in the UK at a later date would make sense, according to a co-founder of the Cambridge-based chip designer.

Arm’s parent, the Japanese conglomerate SoftBank, has officially filed for a US-only listing, in a blow to the UK government, which has lobbied hard for a London listing.


Arm aims to raise $10bn (£8bn) and could achieve a valuation of between $30bn and $70bn in what is likely to be one of the biggest US floats this year, Arm’s co-founder Hermann Hauser said, adding that it would have struggled to raise this amount of money in the UK. “Softbank really needs the money to further support the growth of Arm,” he said.

Arm co-founder partly blames ‘Brexit idiocy’ for US flotation

Hermann Hauser says UK chip designer rules could seek secondary listing in London later

www.theguardian.com

 

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Brexit regret continues to inexorably rise. I want it to hit the trigger point / critical mass for rejoining asap. It can't come soon enough.

Brexit regret among Leave voters hits record high, poll finds

Seven years on from the UK’s decision to leave the European Union, more Brexiteers than ever regret their decision

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

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First article explains just how badly exports and investment have been hit. The second how the country is further turning against brexit. Heck, even Farage is admitting it's a disaster!

Brexit is a self-inflicted wound of unparalleled severity | Phillip Inman

Quitting the EU has stalled business investment, making us reliant on workers who are now scarce. Hence rising wages, high inflation and increased interest rates. Result? A looming recession

www.theguardian.com

More than half of voters now want Britain to forge closer ties with the EU, poll reveals

Dramatic reversal in public opinion seen even in those constituencies that recorded the highest votes to leave

www.theguardian.com

 

[Mars]

First article explains just how badly exports and investment have been hit. The second how the country is further turning against brexit. Heck, even Farage is admitting it's a disaster!

Brexit is a self-inflicted wound of unparalleled severity | Phillip Inman

Quitting the EU has stalled business investment, making us reliant on workers who are now scarce. Hence rising wages, high inflation and increased interest rates. Result? A looming recession

www.theguardian.com

More than half of voters now want Britain to forge closer ties with the EU, poll reveals

Dramatic reversal in public opinion seen even in those constituencies that recorded the highest votes to leave

www.theguardian.com

If this is how the people feel, then the party that will promise in its manifesto to rejoin the EU, will win the nxt election; but they all keep quiet about it. I mean, when you say Farage is admitting its a disaster.... it is telling!

 

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If this is how the people feel, then the party that will promise in its manifesto to rejoin the EU, will win the nxt election; but they all keep quiet about it. I mean, when you say Farage is admitting its a disaster.... it is telling!

Well, I've seen it explained that what matters are that thin line of floating voters who win and lose elections for parties and that unfortunately, they're still a bit too brexity, hence Labour feels it still has to tiresomely pander to them. While there's truth to this, I'm not entirely convinced by it and I'm thoroughly sick of this pandering too.

Wish I knew where that video explaining this was now to show you, but looking through them on A Different Bias's channel is like look for a needle in a haystack. Thought I'd posted it in NZ, but it seems I haven't.

 

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This clusterfuck by Johnson should help to increase momentum for rejoining the EU.

'I'm f***ing furious': Boris Johnson accused of 'selling Britain' over extraordinary Brexit trade revelations

British farmers have been left 'sickened' after remarkable details emerged about how Boris Johnson finalised the UK’s post-Brexit trade deal with Australia.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[Crims]

I never believed the Tories value the UK first, and the more pomp it had the more they put towards perpetuating fantasy. My dislike for Tories notwithstanding.

 

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Another brexit "benefit" strikes.

At 10.34am on Monday, the final Eurostar “Disneyland Express” will depart from London St Pancras International. The direct high-speed rail link to the heart of the theme park east of Paris has been running since 1996, except for a pause during the Covid crisis.

But Eurostar is now ending the service because of extra red tape brought in as a result of Brexit. The UK government negotiated for British passport holders to become “third-country nationals” – with a hard European Union frontier installed at St Pancras station for outbound passengers.

Eurostar forced to stop running London-Amsterdam trains for almost a year in 2024

The incredible shrinking network: Brexit plus refurbishment could see the number of stations served by the cross-Channel train operator cut from 13 to four

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

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Good news for a swifter return to the fold.

Britain can reverse Brexit and rejoin the EU any time it likes Michel Barnier has said.

The former Brexit negotiator said the UK knew "exactly" what the conditions for rejoining the bloc were and that “the door is open”.

But speaking to ITV's Peston programme Mr Barnier blasted Boris Johnson's handling of talks with Brussels – accusing him of disrespecting his own signature on the deal he signed.

"The point is not to sign a treaty, the point is to respect the treaty and to respect its own signature," Mr Barnier said of the ex-PM's approach.

"I never understood, I do not still understand, how the prime minister of such a country, a great country like the UK, can be able not to respect his own signature.”

Well, it's obvious how he can disrespect his own signature: Johnson is a con man who never intended to uphold his side of the bargain. To him, this whole thing was just a way for him to benefit himself with money and power. Barnier can't say this in public though due to libel laws, but he knows it too.

Brexit: Britain can rejoin EU any time, says ex-negotiator Michael Barnier

But ex-Brussels Brexit chief accuses Boris Johnson of disrespecting his own signature

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

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This government are such petty assholes.

They've specifically banned flying the EU flag today, the 7th anniversary of that awful brexit referendum. Any other flag is acceptable though. So so petty.

Tories out!

London mayor’s office ‘banned’ from flying EU flag on referendum anniversary

A change in planning rules has stopped the EU flag from being raised, say City Hall sources

www.theguardian.com

 

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Starmer, it's time to start pushing for rejoining and ditch the obnoxious "make brexit work" mantra.

Britons who want to rejoin EU at highest levels since 2016, survey finds

Data showed 58% would vote to re-enter bloc, while respondents said they trusted the European Commission more than the UK government

www.theguardian.com

 

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Phil explains the strategy required to make rejoining happen.

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[Mars]

brexit..... was from its inception and is now, for all to see and suffer, an unmitigated disaster.
I would like to believe that the party that will include in its manifesto a commitment to rejoin the EU, will win the next election.

Starmer, it's time to start pushing for rejoining and ditch the obnoxious "make brexit work" mantra.

Britons who want to rejoin EU at highest levels since 2016, survey finds

Data showed 58% would vote to re-enter bloc, while respondents said they trusted the European Commission more than the UK government

www.theguardian.com

It looks like Labour has joined the ranks of turncoats and U-turners.

 

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It looks like Labour has joined the ranks of turncoats and U-turners.

Have you seen the video? It's not quite like that as Phil explains the strategy.

 

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This a protest site worth bookmarking. There's a march on Saturday 23.09.23 if you can make it.

National Rejoin March | National Rejoin March

National Rejoin March is a grassroots campaign advocating for the UK's return to the EU. We work tirelessly to keep #RejoinEU in public discourse, ensuring that our voices are heard both online and offline. Together, we can make a difference for our future.

marchforrejoin.co.uk